[metmom]

It’s only presumption that the pouring out of the Holy Spirit at Pentecost created the CATHOLIC church.

No where in Scripture is the Catholic church ever mentioned.

Simply co-opting the term *church* and claiming that it retroactively means the Catholic church has no basis and is unsubstantiated.

It does not put the claims of the Catholic church as the church Jesus started and being the OTC, beyond dispute.

[Mrs. Don-o]

By "Catholic" church I mean "universal." If you consider yourself a Christian and a member of Christ's church, you may well say your church began at Pentecost. People as far apart as Pentecostals and Orthodox do. A Lutheran pastor once told me that it's not that Pentecost is the "birthday" of the Church; it's the "Baptism" day of the Church."

And you?