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To: verga; Mrs. Don-o

That is not the question.

No one asked you that.

The questions bounced back into metmon's lap were those which she first posed to another.

Would either yourself, verga, or Mrs. Don-o care to address those questions? We know Sal won't...

I do notice, that for all the badgering, verga has not lifted one tiny finger towards answering those questions himself.

So can verga badger or can he badger -- is more like it.

What I myself find rather amusing, is whenever any set of questions arise on *some* people's doorsteps --which either may take a lot of effort to answer, or the answer may prove inconvenient to the positions they were just previously espousing --then the crickets start to chirp.

Roman Catholic crickets --right in verga's front yard. Speaking of what can be called, like wild turkeys answering a box-call, those chickens crickets -- have come home to roost! [said in my best Rev. Jeremiah Wright voice]

chirp-chirp

124 posted on 12/07/2014 3:09:51 AM PST by BlueDragon
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To: BlueDragon; metmom
ping to the above, forgot to include you.

I also did not include another I made brief mention of, as something of a small favor to that individual. 8^")

125 posted on 12/07/2014 3:12:37 AM PST by BlueDragon
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To: BlueDragon; metmom; don-o
Speaking for myself, but, I sispect, many for other Catholics and Orthodox as well, I/we feel frustrated when our esteemed Bible-believing brethren and sistren don't pay attention to the foundational nature of Tradition when it is sitting right there in their very hands, in the Bible itself.

OK, let's take Tradition-with-a-capital-T 101. Truths that we have from Apostolic times, which are not, themselves, found in print in the Scriptures.

If you don't accept that--- the most important, foundational stuff --- why would you accept the rest of the catalog?

Why would I mention more --- Worshiping together on Sunday. The basic form of Divine Liturgy. Monogamy. Getting married in church, with a priest/deacon as witness. The other Sacraments understood as such: Baptism, the Eucharist, Confirmation, Holy Orders, Penance, Anointing of the Sick. The special loving regard for the "Theotokos, Panagia" and ever-virgin Mary,"Beata Maria Semper Virgine" --- if you don't even see that the written Scriptures themselves depend on MUCH WIDER* oral or unwritten sources for their composition, compilation, preservation, transmission, translation, interpretation, and distribution?

What was the Rule of Faith, what was the Standard of Belief, during the decades before even the first of the Four Gospels were even written? during the 6 or 7 decades before the canon was closed? During the literal centuries when almost nobody would have possessed the entire canon of Sacred Scripture in writing?

Your own (and our own)precious, indispensable, inerrant written authority --- the Bible --- rests on the underlying, wider authority of Tradition; and the whole shebang rests on Christ's promise to send the Holy Spirit to guide His Church on Her pilgrimage through history.

I can only thank the Holy Spirit, Divine Author of Scripture and Guardian of Apostolic Tradition.


MUCH WIDER *

John 21:25
Jesus did many other things as well. If every one of them were written down, I suppose that even the whole world would not have room for the books that would be written.

128 posted on 12/07/2014 8:18:21 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o (Come, Holy Spirit, fill the hearts of Thy faithful, and kindle in them the fire of Thy love.)
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