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To: Steelfish
John 21: 25 refutes the nonsense that the Bible by itself without regard to other forms of scriptural interpretation is the ultimate source of all belief:

You've just opened the door to Mormonism and pretty much anyone else. You've also opened the door to allowing Mary to be named a Redemtrix alongside of Christ. That's the next step for her. The votes aren't there for that just yet...but it's coming.

Catholicism already wrongly teaches we can't get to Christ except we go through Mary.

That right there disqualifies every other non-biblical teaching of the catholic church. In fact, it makes me double and triple check everything I read by catholics.

Jesus set the example of how we should respond to these challenges by stating..."It is written...." He appealed to the written Word on more than one occasion while trashing the traditions of the pharisees.

There is only Petrine authority in the minds of catholics. We know the ECFs did not all adhere to this interpretation. They're all over the board on this.

If we're not adhering to the Word as the final authority we open ourselves up man-made doctrine as we see in the false teachings on Mary. I posted earlier regarding the false book these teachings are based on.

Paul relied upon the Word being the final authority in 2 Timothy 3:16-17.

Regarding the Eucharist, I've already posted on that. It is not the actual blood or flesh we're partaking...it is the faith in Christ that saves us.

But then again, catholics believe you have to go through Mary to get to Christ so why should I believe they are correct on this??

If the Eucharist is the end all be all for salvation, then the individual who believes in Christ and dies on the battlefield without benefit of the Eucharist, or an individual in a car wreck or some other situation where the Eucharist or a priest is not available, then based on what you're saying, they are not saved and do not go to Heaven. That flies against John 3:16 and pretty much everything Paul has written in the NT.

I tell you, if I were catholic and really believed what ya'll on this board say it teaches, I wouldn't let a priest out of my sight.

To throw the name of Billy Graham in with the charlatans you mention is rather disingenuous on your part.

Your last paragraph, regarding throwing out "swatches of scriptures", is more along catholic lines of picking and choosing verses, and goodness knows what else, out of context to support the false teaching of catholicism.

123 posted on 11/29/2014 5:29:03 PM PST by ealgeone
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To: ealgeone

Regarding the Eucharist, I’ve already posted on that. It is not the actual blood or flesh we’re partaking...it is the faith in Christ that saves us.


I hope this don`t make you mad ealgeone but this we agree on.


126 posted on 11/29/2014 5:46:50 PM PST by ravenwolf (` Does the scripture explain it in full detail? if not how can you?)
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To: ealgeone

John 21: 25 opens the door to no one. It allows the use of Petrine authority to authoritatively state and interpret the Word of God, no less and no more than what the early Church fathers did in assembling together the authentic Word of God. This authority was not given to Baptists, AnaBaptists, Lutherans, Methodists, Moonies, or your corner street Foursquare Church paster. Mary may well be the co-redeemtrix. It was her “Be it done according to thy will” that enabled the greatest event in human history, the incarnation of the Word of God.

Sophomoric and shallow interpretations by so-called Bible Christians have been dissected to the point of ridicule. No wonder the largest paster of Sweden’s largest and most influential Protestant church Ulf Elkman decided to jettison this nonsense and convert to Catholicism.

http://www.christianitytoday.com/gleanings/2014/march/sweden-pentecostal-converts-catholicism-ulf-ekman-word-life.html?paging=off


129 posted on 11/29/2014 6:00:31 PM PST by Steelfish
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