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To: Elsie
"Says a person who truly believes that Peter is the Rock Jesus was speaking about."

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Yes, those of us in the Church founded by Jesus Christ believe everything Jesus said, not just parts of it that we happen to like, and that we selectively "pick and choose".

Never forget what Jesus plainly said in this text:

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Jesus answered them, "This is the work of God, that you believe in him whom he has sent."

John 6:29

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(Believing in Jesus means believing everything Jesus taught, not just selected fractions of it, then discarding the rest, pretending Jesus really didn't mean what He said.)

1,083 posted on 12/08/2014 4:27:03 PM PST by Heart-Rest ("Our hearts are restless, Lord, until they rest in Thee." - St. Augustine)
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To: Heart-Rest; Elsie
Believing in Jesus means believing everything Jesus taught, not just selected fractions of it, then discarding the rest, pretending Jesus really didn't mean what He said.

Yes, I agree, which is precisely why I could never be Roman Catholic.  They leave things out that ought to be left in, and add things in that ought to be left out, and sometimes they do both at the same time, which is quite a trick.

For example, in John 6, RC teaching throws under the bus the simple and direct spiritual teaching of Jesus, presented by a food metaphor, that believing in Him results in eternal life, and this despite the fact that Jesus takes great pains to explicitly underline that the teaching was spiritual and not corporeal in nature, just like the rest of His teaching in parables and metaphors.

Then once the core teaching on heart belief in Jesus is ripped out, they can push into the text the much later novelty of transubstantiation, though never was such a thing taught by Jesus, nor the apostles, nor the earliest Christian writers, and which doctrine rather encourages people to worship made-made objects in defiance of God's most basic laws governing worship of Himself.

Going half way with the teachings of Jesus is like going half way to dinner. Not very satisfying. Man shall live how? By every word that proceeds from the mouth of God.

Peace,

SR
1,086 posted on 12/09/2014 1:22:00 PM PST by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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To: Heart-Rest
(Believing in Jesus means believing (everything) Jesus taught, not just selected fractions of it, then discarding the rest, pretending Jesus really didn't mean what He said.)

Matthew 23:9 And call no man your father on earth, for you have one Father, who is in heaven.

1,087 posted on 12/09/2014 2:28:09 PM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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