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To: Partisan Gunslinger
Why so shy? Why didn't you just come clean and tell us you are assured of the remnant by the teachings of Aurthur Murray and his Shepherd's chapel?

THE CULTIC TEACHINGS OF ARNOLD MURRAY

Modalism

Mr. Murray does not believe in the Christian doctrine of the Trinity (one God existing eternally in three Persons). There are three real and personal relationships between the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. Murray denies the three persons of God, claiming they are merely three offices. Concerning the Trinity, he said:

You have these yo-yo's that will say, 'Well I want you to think like of water (sic) and ice' and so on, various gases or so forth, or then they'll say, 'I want you to think of a 200 watt bulb, and a 150 watt bulb, and a 50 watt bulb.' Well, they're all the same wattage, friend. So why not just simplify it instead of playing stupid games, and understand there are three offices of the Godhead. Like this little lady said. She said, 'To my husband I am a wife, to my children I am a mother, that's my office. To hundreds of third graders I am their teacher and have been down through the years. That's a different office; none of them the same, but I'm still the same person.' I like that. It's simple and to the point (The Shepherd's Chapel Question and Answers period, aired 64-91).

Referring to Christ, Murray says, "His spirit is holy and he is the Holy Spirit." (Shepherd's Chapel Question and Answers period, aired 54-91) Hence, Murray is guilty of teaching the heresy of modalism, which states that Jesus is the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit (one Person in three roles, or modes). One of the accusations made against CRI by the followers of Arnold Murray is that Mr. Murray does hold to the eternal deity of Christ. However, since Murray does not believe in the three Persons of the Trinity, he cannot logically hold to the deity of Jesus Christ being the eternal Son of God, Second Person of the Trinity. Having made these statements, he inconsistently says, A wise man never discusses the Trinity. (Ibid., 5-15-91)

732 posted on 11/29/2014 10:35:57 AM PST by redleghunter (But let your word 'yes be 'yes,' and your 'no be 'no.' Anything more than this is from the evil one.)
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To: redleghunter
Mr. Murray does not believe in the Christian doctrine of the Trinity...

I stopped right there. That is a false website. Arnold is all over TV, satellite Dish channel 256, and the internet that he hated so much. lol Pull his own words and I'll tell you if I agree or disagree. He's about like Rush to me, I agree with him about 90% of the time. Just because he said something doesn't mean I ate it up, he's no Vicar of Christ to me.

He was the best teacher though, at it's height, they were bringing in 600 new students a day, and Shepherd's Chapel biggest gains were being made in China. That's what you call "publishing the Word! Remembering the parable of the talents, Arnold has many millions talents of gold, I have a few through him and the Word (part of another one just last week!...she told me she was an atheist just a month ago, she's going to church tomorrow), how many do you have with your politically correct watered down doctrine?

743 posted on 11/29/2014 11:07:15 AM PST by Partisan Gunslinger
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