Posted on 11/24/2014 1:07:14 PM PST by NYer
Romans 11 was speaking to conditions at Elijah’s time.
His remnant has varied throughout history.
Eisegis is the method that you appear to employ.
Twisting the scriptures to meet your cult’s needs.
Virgin in this present context means those that love God, and are faithful to their spouse.
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Mr. Murray teaches Anglo-Israelism which believes that Anglo-Saxons are the chosen race, and America and Great Britain are the lost tribes of the children of Israel. Murray claims that the northern ten tribes of Israel are "the same tribes that later went north and populated Europe and North America". (The Shepherd's Chapel newsletter #148, 2-91) According to the theology of Anglo-Israelism, other races are inferior to whites, and usually the blacks and Jewish race are particularly stigmatized. Murray, on the other hand, says that he respects blacks and other races. However, he believes these races were the 'Adam' created on the sixth day of creation in Genesis 1, while the Anglo-Saxons were 'another Adam' created on the eighth day of creation based on his interpretation of Genesis 2. Hence, there is a definite distinction between whites and non-whites. Arnold Murray also promotes the literature of other Anglo-Israelism teachers. The Shepherd's Chapel Book List, for instance, offers materials by E. Raymond Capt and J. H. Allen.
http://www.deceptioninthechurch.com/arnoldmurray.html
I stopped right there. That is a false website. Arnold is all over TV, satellite Dish channel 256, and the internet that he hated so much. lol Pull his own words and I'll tell you if I agree or disagree. He's about like Rush to me, I agree with him about 90% of the time. Just because he said something doesn't mean I ate it up, he's no Vicar of Christ to me.
He was the best teacher though, at it's height, they were bringing in 600 new students a day, and Shepherd's Chapel biggest gains were being made in China. That's what you call "publishing the Word! Remembering the parable of the talents, Arnold has many millions talents of gold, I have a few through him and the Word (part of another one just last week!...she told me she was an atheist just a month ago, she's going to church tomorrow), how many do you have with your politically correct watered down doctrine?
Keep digging your own pit.
Mat 12:36 But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment.
You live in Charleston, right? What are you editor of? I'm about 10 minutes away from Charleston.
You poor man, everyone here is just so stupid according to your tagline.
Arthur? lol
Another false website. Pull his own words.
>> “Mr. Murray teaches Anglo-Israelism which believes that Anglo-Saxons are the chosen race, and America and Great Britain are the lost tribes of the children of Israel.” <<
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Its easy to take a little piece of the truth, and add a big lie to create a racial cult.
They take Jacob’s deathbed prophecy (Genesis 48) that Manasseh would be “a great nation,” and Ephraim would be greater than he, and father a multitude of nations, and twist it to all of the House of Israel, not just the two tribes of Joseph, and then make them “lost” to explain why history doesn’t support Britain being all of Israel.
This really isn’t a new trick. Everybody wants to be “all of Israel.” By that means they become the replacement for Yehova’s elect. Catholics did it first, then Luther tried to steal the mantle from them. Now we have a multitude of Israel replacements.
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>> “You live in Charleston, right? What are you editor of? I’m about 10 minutes away from Charleston.” <<
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LOL!
I’m about as far from Charleston as you can get and still be in America.
So you live in Ashville!
A Satanist hold-out if ever there was one.
A lot of first person, personal assurances there. My kindness is blunt. Murray's chapel teachings are cultic. He claimed to be a prophet and made predictions which did not come to be. He is in the same batch of false predictors as the Millerites, Mormons and Harold Camping.
Ultimately, Mr. Murray subtly pressures his listeners to choose between his "prophetic word", or "the doctrine of the Pharisees" of orthodox Christianity. "But, deep down in your souls when you must make the decision to stand for your Father or the traditions of man, it can separate you from friends and loved ones." (Newsletter #129, 6-89) In defiance of Acts 1:7, Mr. Murray set an end time date by claiming that the Antichrist would appear by 1981. This prediction, of course turned out to be false. "Lucifer was taken to the pit...Know from the 2nd chapter of 2 Thessalonians that he shall soon return. The Book of Daniel very clearly states that it shall happen before the year 1981, if you have any understanding at all of the wisdom of the elect in the last days" (Seed of the Serpent, version taped in 1979) Yet, in spite of his prejudices, false doctrine, and false prophecies, he states, "I am a servant of the living God that carries the end time message, and it's either time to wake up now, or go down with your boat, friend". (The Shepherd's Chapel Questions and Answers period, aired 5-16-91)
http://www.deceptioninthechurch.com/arnoldmurray.html
Condemning a whole town? Wow.
So you live in Ashville! A Satanist hold-out if ever there was one.
Condemning a whole town? Wow.
Well, I thought it was going to be 2003, so we're not perfect are we?
People, PEOPLE! I think the invisible church is losing its focus! You all need to stop fighting among yourselves and get back on the track that got this thread over 700 posts: Anti-Catholicism!
It’s the glue that holds the invisible church together. Don’t let the church die!!
Focus.
Who was the subject of these passages? A hint is the subject of the discussion starts in chapter 9. It’s Israel. Romans 11:4 describes the historical fact God does not give up on His chosen people Israel. And yet somehow Murray states Israelites are “Kenites.”
Romans 11 King James Version (KJV)
11 I say then, Hath God cast away his people? God forbid. For I also am an Israelite, of the seed of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin.
2 God hath not cast away his people which he foreknew. Wot ye not what the scripture saith of Elias? how he maketh intercession to God against Israel saying,
3 Lord, they have killed thy prophets, and digged down thine altars; and I am left alone, and they seek my life.
4 But what saith the answer of God unto him? I have reserved to myself seven thousand men, who have not bowed the knee to the image of Baal.
5 Even so then at this present time also there is a remnant according to the election of grace.
6 And if by grace, then is it no more of works: otherwise grace is no more grace. But if it be of works, then it is no more grace: otherwise work is no more work.
7 What then? Israel hath not obtained that which he seeketh for; but the election hath obtained it, and the rest were blinded.
8 (According as it is written, God hath given them the spirit of slumber, eyes that they should not see, and ears that they should not hear;) unto this day.
9 And David saith, Let their table be made a snare, and a trap, and a stumblingblock, and a recompence unto them:
10 Let their eyes be darkened, that they may not see, and bow down their back alway.
11 I say then, Have they stumbled that they should fall? God forbid: but rather through their fall salvation is come unto the Gentiles, for to provoke them to jealousy.
But playing “gotcha” is what talking bible it all about with these false assumers. Talking bible is no fun unless one can try their hardest to Pharisee someone quiet. lol
Jesus picked up most of his disciples from around the Sea of Galilee. These people that supplied the disciples never left despite Jerusalem being sacked by Rome, depopulated, everything else over almost 2000 years.
The entire epistle to Timothy explains what is sound doctrine. Yet neither Timothy nor Titus are ever instructed on the "7000" and managing churches as such. That must have been "secret knowledge" only some can "discern" as is the case with the Eucharist and other traditions of men such have to wrest out of the text to fit their doctrines.
What was will be again, wait and see.
Don’t stop keep reading. All claims are cited from videos or tapes from Murray’s work.
Murray believed he was God’s chosen prophet for end times.
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