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To: CynicalBear

Veneration is different than worship. Latria, is due to God alone, while Mary is due hyperdulia. When you study those two words, my post will make sense.

Additionally, your response implies she is given equal status with God. That is incorrect, for to do so would be a violation of the first commandment. To assume the Roman Catholic Church would promote the violation of the first commandment is both illogical an uncharitable.

Mary is to be reverenced above all CREATED beings (angels, people), for she was the Mother of Jesus. She provided of her own free will, the human womb, sustenance, rearing and protection for God made man. Hers is a role known by no other in the history of the universe.

Please also re-read John 2. People at the feast knew Jesus was different, special, and capable of miracles. However, they approached Mary, asking her for the help of her son. Does this diminish the majesty of Jesus? No. Rather, it demonstrates the people’s knowledge of the 4th commandment, and trust that Jesus will honor the request of His mother.

As Americans, we don’t have the concept of Queen Mother. In the ancient world, people would often petition the Queen mother, knowing her sovereign son would listen to his mother. As Jesus is perfect, and lived a perfect life on earth, he too did and does honor His mother. Should we do anything less than imitate the example of Jesus?

May you have a safe and pleasant Thanksgiving.


93 posted on 11/25/2014 5:38:58 AM PST by SpirituTuo
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To: SpirituTuo
Please also re-read John 2. People at the feast knew Jesus was different, special, and capable of miracles. However, they approached Mary, asking her for the help of her son.

That's not in the Christian Bible...How do you expect people to take you seriously when you make up stuff and claim it is biblical??? I certainly don't...

Perhaps gullible Catholics believe this lunacy instead of checking you out to see if you are telling the truth...

Mary is to be reverenced above all CREATED beings (angels, people), for she was the Mother of Jesus.

More unBiblical, unGodly nonsense...

95 posted on 11/25/2014 6:10:15 AM PST by Iscool
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To: SpirituTuo
>>Veneration is different than worship.<<

Only in the mind of a Catholic.

Worship - extravagant respect or admiration for or devotion to an object of esteem

Worship - to show profound religious devotion and respect to; adore or venerate

venerate - to regard or treat with reverence; revere. ( Latin venerātus, past participle of venerārī to solicit the goodwill of (a god), worship, revere;)

Veneration - (Latin veneratio or dulia, Greek δουλεία, douleia)

>>Latria, is due to God alone, while Mary is due hyperdulia. When you study those two words,<<

Well, let's do that.

latreia - service, worship

douleia - slavery, bondage

So you say you are a slave to Mary. But let's see whose "slave" we should be.

Paul, a servant (doulos a form of douleia meaning a male slave) of Jesus Christ, called to be an apostle, separated unto the gospel of God,

>>my post will make sense<<

You're kidding me right? What did you think I was going to study? The Catholic lies about those words? Catholics are being lied to.

Catholics can play all the word games they want. As I've shown above when one studies to find truth instead of studying the Catholic Church lies and propaganda it becomes clear that the Catholic Church twists scripture and words.

105 posted on 11/25/2014 11:21:18 AM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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