[Resettozero]

Catechism of the Catholic Church, para. 819 "Furthermore, many elements of sanctification and of truth" are found outside the visible confines of the Catholic Church: "the written Word of God; the life of grace; faith, hope, and charity, with the other interior gifts of the Holy Spirit, as well as visible elements." Christ's Spirit uses these Churches and ecclesial communities as means of salvation..."

Truly, other RC posters on FR do not agree with this tenent. But, thank you for posting this. I'll be quoting it often to the RC posters on FR who say that the RCC is the one and only church that Christ founded on Simon Peter. These posters have said this many times in many ways on many FR threads over many years.

Can you please provide me with an online link to where you found this paragraph 819? Thank you.

This Catechism of the (Roman) Catholic Church, para.819 you have posted is conclusive proof that the Roman Catholic church admits God's Gift of Salvation (through the Lord Jesus Christ only) can be given, as God sees fit, to other believers who worship at other churches, and is NOT limited to members only of the RCC.

[Mrs. Don-o]

You can click on the line which is in red, and bolded, in my previous comment; or click here:

http://www.scborromeo.org/ccc/p123a9p3.htm#819

[piusv]

No, paragraph 819 of JPII's catechism is the result of more Vatican II heresy.

Pre-Vatican II Catholic teaching:

Pope Leo XIII, Satis Cognitum (# 9), June 29, 1896: "The Church alone offers to the human race that religion - that state of absolute perfection - which He wished, as it were, to be incorporated in it. And it alone supplies those means of salvation which accord with the ordinary counsels of Providence."