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To: Petrosius; Faith Presses On; redleghunter; Springfield Reformer; Godzilla; roamer_1
We are speaking of the English word "priest" not the Greek hiereus. I never said that hiereus was used to describe presbuteros. Old English actually had two words preost, which was used only for presbuteros, and sacerd, which was used for hiereus. Preost survived into Modern English as "priest". Sacerd did not survive and its lack was made up by giving "priest" an additional meaning for it.

Thank you very much for the clarification. Now i understand where you are coming from. Please forgive undue offense.

Old English preost probably shortened from the older Germanic form represented by Old Saxon and Old High German prestar, Old Frisian prestere, all from Vulgar Latin *prester "priest," from Late Latin presbyter "presbyter, elder," from Greek presbyteros - http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=priest

Yet it remains that using the distinctive term which came to be used for hiereus to title presbyteros is wrong. Rather than making hiereus/sacerdos (offerer of sacrifices," from sacer "holy") equate to presbyteros/preost (which the RC Douay Rheims Bible inconsistently does), the distinction should have been maintained, as in the KJV.

So my complaint is not only that "priest" is an inaccurate translation of hiereus/sacerdos , but that it was used as the title for presbuteros instead of elder/overseer.

83 posted on 11/21/2014 6:50:46 PM PST by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: daniel1212

See my post #80.


84 posted on 11/21/2014 7:08:04 PM PST by Petrosius
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To: daniel1212; Petrosius; Faith Presses On; redleghunter; Springfield Reformer; Godzilla; roamer_1
So my complaint is not only that "priest" is an inaccurate translation of hiereus/sacerdos , but that it was used as the title for presbuteros instead of elder/overseer.

And rightly so, since every office of the Early Church was derived strictly from the synagogue - And there is no sacerdotal process therein. The priesthood was exclusive to the Temple.

87 posted on 11/22/2014 10:49:48 AM PST by roamer_1 (Globalism is just socialism in a business suit.)
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