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me:  "Are you saying that all Protestants must reject "purgatory", as if that is a Protestant dogma?"

boatbums:  "Why don't you go back and re-read my comment? Your answer is there already."

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Your post #74 said the following:

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"There doesn't NEED to be unanimus consensus for Protestants on Purgatory since that dogma is REJECTED."

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Like I told you in my post #78, you may reject that belief, but it has definitely not been rejected by all Protestants, including such prominent Protestants as C. S. Lewis, and Dr. Jerry L. Walls, professor at Houston Baptist University.

In other words, Dr. Jerry Walls' own Protestant interpretation of the Holy Scriptures directly contradicts your Protestant interpretation of the Holy Scriptures, regarding that question.

There is also quite a bit of diversity among the various Eastern Orthodox Churches as well concerning "an intermediate state of the soul between death and the final judgment", where they believe prayers for those dead people can be efficacious for them.    (They do not call it "purgatory", which came from the Latin term, but there are strong similarities between the Catholic beliefs about it, and the beliefs that some Orthodox Christians hold.    Just do a quick Google search on orthodox diversity on purgatory to quickly confirm the truth of the existence of that diversity among the Orthodox concerning that matter.)

And for another interesting set of related Protestant youtube videos for you to watch, please check out these ones of Dr. Jerry L. Walls too:

• "What's Wrong With Calvinism; Part 1: Understanding Calvinism. With Dr. Jerry L. Walls"

• "What's Wrong With Calvinism; Part 2: The Heart of the Matter. With Dr. Jerry L. Walls"

• "What's Wrong With Calvinism; Part 3: Why it Matters. With Dr. Jerry L. Walls"

[boatbums]

Here is ALL of what I said on the topic:

The words "heaven" and "hell" certainly are in Scripture. The word "purgatory", though is NOT. There doesn't NEED to be unanimous consensus for Protestants on Purgatory since that dogma is REJECTED. Even the Orthodox reject it! My point is that if your religion is going to make something dogma, mandatory to be believed, invent "rules" for how to get people out and other associated doctrines like prayer to departed saints, the treasury of merit, Mary being used to get people out, etc. shouldn't it be expected to have some sort of detail figured out before it gets cemented as an infallible dogma??? Even the meager attempts to appeal to Scripture passages for proof texts is inadequate and it is already known that the Roman Catholic church says she doesn't NEED to rely upon God's word since truth is whatever they say it is.

Maybe that's just peachy fine for some people, but it isn't for me. I know that what God intends for us to believe about Him IS contained in His sacred word and it won't be dependent on some people centuries later finally getting around to figuring it out.

So, rather than addressing only a snippet of my point, why don't you respond to the ACTUAL point? If even many Roman Catholics disagree on the specifics of this place called "Purgatory" as well as what goes on there, then you will have to admit that the Roman Catholic church mandating a belief in it and inventing methods and other dogmas relating to the details, has no real leg to stand on other than the truth is whatever they say it is at the time they say it. That may be sufficient for some RCs, but it isn't and hasn't been for Protestants, Orthodox and other non-Catholic Christians.