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Pope Francis selects Patti Smith to perform at the Vatican Christmas Concert
http://www.nme.com ^ | November 14, 2014 | Luke Morgan Britton

Posted on 11/14/2014 5:52:29 PM PST by NKP_Vet

Patti Smith is to play this year's Vatican Christmas Concert in Rome next month.

The punk singer will perform live at the Italian city's Auditorium Conciliazione on December 13 following a personal invitation from Pope Francis, according to The International Business Times. The entire event is set to be broadcast live on TV.

Smith's booking has evoked a mixed response from Christian groups, with Catholic organisation Portosalvo apparently describing the decision as "blasphemous", following the singer's 1975 song 'Gloria', which famously featured the lines: "Jesus died for somebody's sins, but not mine".

The singer met Pope Francis at St. Peter's Square last April, where the pair shook hands.

The Vatican Christmas Concert will also feature a performance from "singing nun" Sister Christina Scuccia, who recently won Italy's version of The Voice and covered Madonna.

(Excerpt) Read more at nme.com ...


TOPICS: Current Events; General Discusssion; Religion & Culture; Theology
KEYWORDS: catholic; christinascuccia; christmas; pattismith; popefrancis; romancatholicism
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To: BlatherNaut

Didn’t say that it was, but perhaps the pope has something in mind. We don’t know ... we’re not there.


81 posted on 11/15/2014 1:48:32 PM PST by al_c (Obama's standing in the world has fallen so much that Kenya now claims he was born in America.)
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To: NKP_Vet; don-o; jobim; Sacajaweau; posterchild; moehoward; lee martell; Gamecock; ClearCase_guy; ...
Well, here's something to consider about Patti Smith:

When the movie Noah was made earlier this year --- a disturbing movie to be sure, and one which veers off of a strictly Biblical account --- Noah is portrayed as a misanthropic eco-pessimist. The central philosophical question asked by the movie is, "Does he human race deserve to reproduce and survive?" The segment where Noah's daughter-in-law decides --- and then, Noah decides --- to spare the twin baby girls rather than kill them, grippingly establishes that the answer is, dramatically, "Yes!" This was the most explicitly pro-life segment ever done in a non-"Christian Market" mainstream movie.

And guess who wrote the "Lullaby" that accompanies this scene? Patti Smith.

This is the lullaby sung by both Russell Crowe and Emma Watson's characters during the film. Smith performs the song herself over the end credits.

"Mercy is as mercy does." This is the theme of the lullaby, and really --- by the end --- the one hopeful theme the movie presents.

Look, if some overt Church Lady Christian did this, nobody would listen to it but Christians. But if Patti Smith, the bad-girl, transgressive Rock'n'Roll Nigger does this, there's a segment of punks and rockers out there that might actually HEAR this for the first time.

Plus, Patti had a baby when she was 20, and placed her for adoption; also had two kids during her "retirement" when she was with her husband--- supposedly that's when she became a practicing Christian, raising her daughers and not doing the "punk" thing. The husband died, so she's a widow. These can be life-changing experiences. So I am a little hopeful here. And my hope will be vindicated if Patti Smith sings the Lullaby at the Pope's Christmas concert.

"Mercy Is..." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ni1jg7BLkiU

If she does "Gloria", I take it all back.

82 posted on 11/15/2014 2:29:22 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o (Your father waits for thee...To wrap you in his healing hands...As the night sky weeps)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Plus he is so humble.


83 posted on 11/15/2014 2:30:59 PM PST by ansel12 (The churlish behavior of Obama over the next two years is going to be spellbinding.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIuCwnnDq8k


84 posted on 11/15/2014 2:38:46 PM PST by Brother Cracker (You are more likely to find krugerrands in a Cracker Jack box than 22 ammo at Wal-Mart)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

I had no idea Patti did that song, or had any tie to hollywood period. Thanks for the info.


85 posted on 11/15/2014 2:41:17 PM PST by lee martell
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To: Mrs. Don-o

“If she does “Gloria”, I take it all back.”

Mrs. Don-O what an interesting post. And thank you for using the N-word straight out, hubby and I LOVE Patti and LOVE that song. It was Fred who died, no? I think he was not well for a long time. RIP.

But come on, Patti Smith’s cover of GLORIA is one of the top three covers of all time. (Tied for first: RESPECT by Aretha Franklin and All Along the Watchtower by Jimi Hendrix, I’ve honestly thought about this A LOT and can’t decide which is better. Aretha wins for best version but Jimi wins for so much better than the original.)

OK, agreed, Gloria (despite the title) is not suitable for a Vatican performance.

But you know, if they get the world class Patti Smith performance they are in for a treat. I’ve seen her, but never saw her rock the world as she can. A friend of mine did, and hubby did at the old The Bottom Line club, she was crawling on the tables. It was so good he went back the next night but {sigh} that performance was not to be repeated.


86 posted on 11/15/2014 2:51:40 PM PST by jocon307
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Creepy, empty New Age garbage. How can the rest of us keep Christ in Christmas if even the Vatican is ditching Him in a pathetic attempt to grovel for relevance in a world that “received him not”?


87 posted on 11/15/2014 3:00:08 PM PST by BlatherNaut
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To: ansel12

Who is so humble?


88 posted on 11/15/2014 3:05:02 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o (Your father waits for thee...To wrap you in his healing hands...As the night sky weeps)
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To: NKP_Vet

I wonder if she’ll play her version of My Generation?

“I don’t need that [censored] [censored]! Hope I die because of it!”

Or maybe Rock ‘n’ Roll N*****?


89 posted on 11/15/2014 3:13:05 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (The mods stole my tagline.)
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To: lee martell
I bought Patti’s album ‘Horses’ years ago, back when she was front page news.

Good stuff!

90 posted on 11/15/2014 3:14:51 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (The mods stole my tagline.)
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To: BlatherNaut
I don't think the song is creepy New Age stuff, especially since it's bookended with Genesis quotes relating to the theme. Poetry is poetry, it communicates differently than a moral or theological treatise. It alludes. It does not communicate principally by making propositions. Feeling and context --- in this case, Genesis --- are necessary for meaning.

Another thing: one conclusion one could infer would be that Pope Francis is reaching out to the wandering lost sheep, to the world that "received Him not," while this is a mission that does not interest you.

This is all contingent on whether Patti Smith does "Lullaby (Mercy Is..)" If not, all bets are off.

91 posted on 11/15/2014 3:17:52 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o (Your father waits for thee...To wrap you in his healing hands...As the night sky weeps)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

The Pope, don’t you remember months of threads on how humble he is?


92 posted on 11/15/2014 3:19:53 PM PST by ansel12 (The churlish behavior of Obama over the next two years is going to be spellbinding.)
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To: ansel12

And this relates to Patti Smith how?


93 posted on 11/15/2014 3:27:41 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o (Your father waits for thee...To wrap you in his healing hands...As the night sky weeps)
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To: NKP_Vet

This is when I wish this forum had smileys. I could use a facepalm smiley, so I can facepalm Francis and the usual posters who find *some* way to defend his pathetic actions/words.


94 posted on 11/15/2014 3:30:23 PM PST by piusv
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To: Mrs. Don-o

You mean how does a mention of the Pope get posted on the person this thread is about, the Pope?

“Pope Francis selects Patti Smith to perform at the Vatican Christmas Concert”


95 posted on 11/15/2014 3:30:41 PM PST by ansel12 (The churlish behavior of Obama over the next two years is going to be spellbinding.)
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To: NKP_Vet

This is an interesting find:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/1527809/Pope-abolishes-Vatican-pop-concert.html

I guess the modernist JPII started it all.


96 posted on 11/15/2014 3:36:45 PM PST by piusv
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To: NKP_Vet

Mrs. John McEnroe? The Scandal singer?


97 posted on 11/15/2014 3:42:20 PM PST by Zionist Conspirator (Throne and Altar! [In Jerusalem!!!])
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To: ansel12
No, no, I didn't mean howcome the Pope gets mentioned, I mean how does Patti Smith and the Christmas Concert relate to his *humility* or lack thereof?

If this is getting too convoluted, skip it. I certainly would.

98 posted on 11/15/2014 3:56:38 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o (Point of well, OK!)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

If you don’t like the reminder of the Pope being humble, just skip it, or ignore it, it really isn’t worth all your posting and inquiries.


99 posted on 11/15/2014 3:59:31 PM PST by ansel12 (The churlish behavior of Obama over the next two years is going to be spellbinding.)
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To: piusv

She’s not gay. She had a daughter when she was 20 and placed the infant for adoption; later married (a man) and had two kids. She is now a widow. I don’t have any reports of who she, at age 67, is now sleeping with, if anybody-— not that it’s any of my business. I hate, and avoid like hell, gossip venues that surveil celebrities’ coital conniptions.


100 posted on 11/15/2014 4:01:23 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o (Point of no information.)
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