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To: Boogieman
"Of course, that is not true for the vast majority of Protestant churches, despite Catholic confusion over the matter. In fact, the Catholic church’s insistence on a strict adherence to its hierarchy’s doctrinal interpretation is closer to the practice of the cults than the mainline Protestant churches are."

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No, what the Church does today in regard to doctrines on "faith and morals" is exactly what the Apostle Paul did too, over and over again.

If you took away Paul's exhortations in his epistles to the Church in various locations to get back to strictly adhering to the Church's (the Holy Spirit's) teachings on faith and morals, you would lose most of the New Testament.

66 posted on 11/13/2014 8:57:46 PM PST by Heart-Rest ("Our hearts are restless, Lord, until they rest in Thee." - St. Augustine)
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To: Heart-Rest

Paul was basically saying “Why ask me? Read it for yourself”

almost “protestant” that way


67 posted on 11/13/2014 8:59:09 PM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: Heart-Rest

“No, what the Church does today in regard to doctrines on “faith and morals” is exactly what the Apostle Paul did too, over and over again.”

There you go, changing the subject in order to make the topic more amenable to your line of argument. The question is not about Catholic teachings on faith and morals. The matter under discussion is interpretation of Scripture, which the Catholic church dictates from the magisterium, absolutely forbidding any deviance from the delivered interpretation:

“The Magisterium of the Church

85 “The task of giving an authentic interpretation of the Word of God, whether in its written form or in the form of Tradition, has been entrusted to the living teaching office of the Church alone. Its authority in this matter is exercised in the name of Jesus Christ.”47 This means that the task of interpretation has been entrusted to the bishops in communion with the successor of Peter, the Bishop of Rome.”

http://www.vatican.va/archive/ccc_css/archive/catechism/p1s1c2a2.htm

Compare this to the stance of a cult like the Jehovah’s Witnesses on scriptural interpretation:

“Only this organization functions for Jehovah’s purpose and to his praise. To it alone God’s Sacred Word, the Bible, is not a sealed book,” (Watchtower, July 1, 1973, p. 402).

“Thus the Bible is an organizational book and belongs to the Christian congregation as an organization, not to individuals, regardless of how sincerely they may believe that they can interpret the Bible,” (Watchtower, Oct. 1, 1967, p. 587).

Now, let us contrast with the stances of some major protestant denominations. First the Episcopalians/Anglicans:

“Although the study of scripture is often viewed as a very complicated task requiring professional skills, Episcopalians, while embracing modern insights, believe that Scripture is a gift to the Church and all its members. According to the Catechism (Book of Common Prayer, p. 854), Episcopalians “understand the meaning of the Bible by the help of the Holy Spirit, who guides the Church in the true interpretation of the Scriptures.””

http://www.episcopalfonddulac.org/appleton/worship_pages/believe_worship.html

The Methodists:

“The Bible interacts with the tradition, experience, and reason of each of us individually, and as a community of God’s faithful. All of these tools influence and help shape our personal interpretation of Scripture in a process that endures over a lifetime. Through the constantly evolving context of our lives, we read Scripture anew, discovering guidance and inspiration that give Scripture authority for us.”

The Baptists:

“All things in scripture are not equally plain in themselves, nor equally clear to everyone, yet those things which are necessary to be known, believed and observed for salvation, are so clearly propounded and revealed in some place of Scripture or other, that not only the educated but also the uneducated may attain a sufficient understanding of them by the due use of ordinary means.”

London Baptist Confession of Faith - http://www.spurgeon.org/~phil/creeds/bcof.htm

I think any unbiased person can judge which group’s stance on Scriptural interpretation is closer to the cults’.


89 posted on 11/13/2014 10:39:36 PM PST by Boogieman
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