Posted on 11/13/2014 6:49:41 PM PST by Heart-Rest
John 6:63 It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.
The command against eating blood still stands.
I've told you many times what assembly I belong to. True followers of Christ recognize it. Sorry you don't.
Thus our ability to recognize Catholicism as false and their leaders as false apostles.
“Of course Catholics like to ingnore the fact that He said it was spirit rather than physical.”
He never says that. If we use your interpretation, then Jesus never had flesh - or are you going to claim his “flesh profiteth nothing”? Jesus had flesh. If He didn’t, then He could not have died on the Cross and none of us are redeemed.
“The command against eating blood still stands.”
Not when its Jesus’ blood and He commands us to have it.
No we simply don't take passages meant for one thing and build an entire doctrine for something completely different. Still ready to marry your sister in law if circumstance requires by the laws?
Your church uses natural timing to space of children which still means LIMITING THEM no matter what you want to call it. SOME in Protestants use Non Aborting barrier methods wheere no fertilization ever occurs. Same difference same results except some papal hierarchy approved yours so it's called good inside your church. Most churches Catholic and Protestant do not observe Jewish Law today. There were efforts in the very early days following Christ to once again fall under them and place them upon the Gentile and new Jewish believers alike as Peter was being persuaded to do by the Jewish leaders but it was addressed.
Today we observe The Lords Commandments and His teachings and the much fewer laws set by ones like Paul, Peter, John, etc for believers in the "churches" for our conduct in and out of church including rules inside a marriage relationship. For many that suffices and is enough to abide in. For other churches they need volumes upon volumes of more of mans rules "Much like the laws" with some church figureheads holding them over their heads all their lives.
He whom The Son sets free is free indeed.
NFP IS birth control as it’s purpose is to prevent conception.
And annulment is church sanctioned divorce.
The Catholic church loves to repackage sin and rename it so that people don’t think they’re sinning.
The only time they trot out the *Show me in the Bible where the word ________ Is* is when they want to invalidate a doctrine of non-Catholics.
When it's them, they don't care if it's in Scripture or not. And they get to use proof texts because they're speshul, dontcha know?
Here are some other words that they depend on that aren't found in Scripture but they, with a straight face, expect us to accept on their say so.
Then that must mean that these things are not Scriptural either.
trinity
catholic
pope
eucharist
sacraments
annulment
assumption
immaculate conception
mass
purgatory
magisterium
infallible
confirmation
crucifix
rosary
mortal sin
venial sin
perpetual virginity
apostolic succession
indulgences
hyperdulia
catechism
real presence
transubstantiation
liturgy
free will
Doctors did not have the needed knowledge nor skills to help mothers carry their babies to full term and also keep her healthy. Today most pregnancies go to full term with healthy child and mother. IF a couple did not use some method of birth control a woman marrying say at 20 and having children at each available fertility could end up with 25 children by age 45.
Catholics just don't get it. It's not Jesus flesh that saves. It's His shed blood. "The flesh prophiteth nothing".
But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.
Their duplicity would be comical if it weren’t so sad and deadly.
“Catholics just don’t get it. It’s not Jesus flesh that saves. It’s His shed blood. “The flesh prophiteth nothing”.”
You can’t have one (blood) without the other (flesh). Jesus gave both on the Cross. He still gives both in the Eucharist.
And don’t ever trust your spelling. It’s “profiteth” not “prophiteth”. You’ve made this mistake before: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/3219971/replies?c=41
I love that when threads like this are opened with the blatant intention to bash "Protestants" - and, supposedly, ALL non-Catholic Christians are - and exalt the Roman Catholic church, it gets turned into a rebuttal filled with the truth of God's word and the clear message of the Gospel of the grace of God who gives to us eternal life through faith in Jesus Christ. I guess we CAN say "thanks Catholics". ☺
If He gave both on the cross, then there is no FLESH AND BLOOD left to give any more.
Flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God.
The body Jesus has now is not a flesh and blood human body, the kind that is designed to live on earth, because that body cannot handle any environment outside of a narrow range of conditions even here on earth.
His blood was shed (past tense), poured out (past tense) for many, and is gone.
Whatever blood Catholics think they're drinking, it isn't Jesus'.
Wasn’t it nice to see all the catholics denounce this blatant and transparent
Protestant bashing?
Oh wait... i guess that didnt happen
Jesus shed blood was poured out on the ground.
Leviticus 17:10 And whatsoever man there be of the house of Israel, or of the strangers that sojourn among you, that eateth any manner of blood; I will even set my face against that soul that eateth blood, and will cut him off from among his people.
Serious stuff that.
Acts 15:20 But that we write unto them, that they abstain from pollutions of idols, and from fornication, and from things strangled, and from blood.
Still in affect and that was after the death, resurrection, and ascension of Christ. Any reasonable reading tells us that if the apostles thought the were actually eating Jesus blood it would have been stated at that point.
I think anytime they make a semblance of an appeal to a Scripture passage to support a dogma it is not much more than lip service to give an appearance of Scriptural support. Yet, we can go back to the writings of some of the first Christian leaders and find exhortations to their disciples to NOT accept anything they taught if they couldn't back it up by sacred Scripture. More than a few FRoman Catholics have asserted they don't even need to rely on God's word since to do so would be "heretical". Imagine that!?
And you’re expecting reasonable out of someone who thinks you have to drink blood to have life?
“If He gave both on the cross, then there is no FLESH AND BLOOD left to give any more.”
Sure there is - He’s God and resurrected.
“Flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God.”
No, but we will have resurrected bodies in Heaven so obviously glorified flesh will be coupled with sanctified souls.
“The body Jesus has now is not a flesh and blood human body, the kind that is designed to live on earth, because that body cannot handle any environment outside of a narrow range of conditions even here on earth.’
It’s flesh - just glorified flesh.
“His blood was shed (past tense), poured out (past tense) for many, and is gone.”
Glorified, not gone.
“Whatever blood Catholics think they’re drinking, it isn’t Jesus’.”
Yes, it is - exactly as He told us.
LOL I thought about that as I posted but then thought we are not really addressing these staunch cult advocates but those who God is calling.
No, it’s mulberries.
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