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Fr. Chad Ripperger states “Because Mass is itself the same sacrifice at Calvary which is made presented to us in the Mass, it is the font of all graces. Redemption and the obliteration of sin was the result of the Holy Sacrifice at Calvary. The same thing happens during each Mass that we attend, it is as if Christ’s blood was being shed again and being offered up, but this time in an un-bloody way, yet the same graces are granted.”

Blasphemy. While obedience to Christ does bring grace, yet no ritual provides the sacrifice for the redemption and the obliteration of sin, but it can commemorate it, and rather than the Catholic form of endo-cannibalism being the "source and summit of the Christian faith" around which all else revolved, in which "the work of our redemption is accomplished," officiated by distinctively titled "priests," it is only manifestly described at length once in the life of the church , and which is interpretive of the gospels.

And in which the Lord's supper "shows/proclaims" His death by the members unselfishly sharing a communal meal together, not separately or shaming them that have not - which the Corinthians were guilty of, and thus were told that they really were not eating the Lord's supper. (1Cor. 11:17-34)

Moreover, NT pastors do not engage in any unique sacerdotal functions, nor are even shown once dispensing the Lord's supper, nor is dispensing any food part of their ordained function. (Acts 6:3,4) Thus the Holy Spirit never uses the distinctive word for "priest" (hiereus) for any ordained NT pastor under Christ, Nor does the words presbuteros (senior/elder) or episkopos (superintendent/overseer) which He does use for NT pastors mean "priest." Presbuteros or episkopos do not denote a unique sacrificial function, and hiereus (as archiereus=chief priests) is used in distinction to elders in such places as Lk. 22:66; Acts 22:5. See here for more.

Catholic writer Greg Dues in "Catholic Customs & Traditions, a popular guide," states,

"Priesthood as we know it in the Catholic church was unheard of during the first generation of Christianity, because at that time priesthood was still associated with animal sacrifices in both the Jewish and pagan religions."

"When the Eucharist came to be regarded as a sacrifice [after Rome's theology], the role of the bishop took on a priestly dimension. By the third century bishops were considered priests. Presbyters or elders sometimes substituted for the bishop at the Eucharist. By the end of the third century people all over were using the title 'priest' (hierus in Greek and sacerdos in Latin) for whoever presided at the Eucharist." (http://books.google.com/books?id=ajZ_aR-VXn8C&source=gbs_navlinks_s)

Instead of submitting to the Holy Spirit's choice of words, the Catholic titular use of hiereus/priest for presbyteros/elder is defended by the use of an etymological fallacy , since "priest" etymologically is derived from presbyteros due to imposed functional equivalence.

And instead of the "Eucharist" being said to nourish the church, as the Lord's words which remained after His ascension are spirit, and life, and by which one obtains life in himself and then "lives by" Christ as He lived by the Father, Jn. 6:57,63; Acts 10:43; 15:7-9; cf. Mt. 4:4; Jn. 4:34) so it is by hearing and believing God's word that one is nourished. And thus the preaching of it, and prayer, are the primary ordained ordained functions of NT pastors, as seen by their commission (Mk. 16:16) and own words (Acts 6:4) and instructions.

"If thou put the brethren in remembrance of these things, thou shalt be a good minister of Jesus Christ, nourished up in the words of faith and of good doctrine, whereunto thou hast attained." (1 Timothy 4:6)

"And now, brethren, I commend you to God, and to the word of his grace, which is able to build you up, and to give you an inheritance among all them which are sanctified." (Acts 20:32)

In contrast, the idea that one obtains spiritual life in himself by literally eating anything is utterly foreign to holy Scripture. In fact, only the metaphorical view of Jn. 6:53,54ff is Scriptural and is consistent the use of such language by John and the rest of Scripture.

But the idea of obtaining spiritual life by literally eating flesh is not foreign to paganism.

Alpers and Lindenbaum’s research conclusively demonstrated that kuru [neurological disorder] spread easily and rapidly in the Fore people due to their endocannibalistic funeral practices, in which relatives consumed the bodies of the deceased to return the “life force” of the deceased to the hamlet, a Fore societal subunit. - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kuru_%28disease%29#Transmission

Moreover,

"the custom of eating bread sacramentally as the body of a god was practised by the Aztecs before the discovery and conquest of Mexico by the Spaniards." - http://www.bartleby.com/196/121.html

All of which has been shown before by the grace of God, with more detail.

12 posted on 11/09/2014 4:55:14 AM PST by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: daniel1212
Once again, well done! >>But the idea of obtaining spiritual life by literally eating flesh is not foreign to paganism.<<

Those who now call themselves Catholic but truly desire Christ had better take heed.

24 posted on 11/09/2014 8:21:07 AM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: daniel1212
Once again, well done! >>But the idea of obtaining spiritual life by literally eating flesh is not foreign to paganism.<<

Those who now call themselves Catholic but truly desire Christ had better take heed.

25 posted on 11/09/2014 8:21:07 AM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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