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To: cva66snipe; melsec

Assuring oneself one is going to heaven is the ultimate act of pride, and pride is the first of the deadly sins.


15 posted on 11/08/2014 9:40:36 PM PST by Steelfish (ui)
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To: Steelfish; cva66snipe; melsec
Assuring oneself one is going to heaven is the ultimate act of pride, and pride is the first of the deadly sins.

Except it's not pride nor is one "assuring oneself" of going to heaven based on that person's merit, good works, deserving it, earning it or being "good enough", but it is trusting in Jesus Christ who has called us to faith in Him whereby He gives to us eternal life as a GIFT of God by His grace.

If, however, one believes that he must be a good person, merit by his works, "cooperate" with God's grace by his actions, add his own works to faith in order to make it to heaven, then that IS the ultimate act of pride and it IS deadly - for eternity. NOT by works of righteousness which we have done but according to HIS mercy He saved us. It is ALL Christ and His perfect sacrifice for our sins that ANY of us could have hope of heaven. Only His precious blood makes atonement for sin - not any filthy rags of our own righteousness. Thinking we add to His finished work on the cross is an insult to God and is truly a deadly act of pride.

    For by grace are you saved through faith and that not of yourselves. It is a gift of God not of works, lest any man should boast. (Eph. 2:8,9)

Billy Graham understands that and is why he can KNOW he has everlasting life.

16 posted on 11/08/2014 10:04:21 PM PST by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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To: Steelfish

Read Paul’s second letter to Timothy chapter 4. v 18. Paul is certain of his fate. A man or woman saying that “Their” deeds, church, dogma, etc gets them into heaven is sin. A person saying belief in Jesus Christ by His sacrifice they are saved is not sin because it gives Him the glory not mans works. Billy Graham will tell you he isn’t going to heave because he preached 60 years. He will say he’s going to heaven because of Jesus Christ dieing for his sins and in doing so overcoming death, hell, and the grave for him taking his and those who believe sins upon himself. Did you know doubt is wrong?


18 posted on 11/08/2014 10:10:41 PM PST by cva66snipe ((Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?))
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To: Steelfish

I don’t know how more plainly I can put it but our assurance is in Christ and His sacrifice not of our own works lest any man should boast. I am sure that Mr. Graham is not boasting on his own behalf but relying on the assurance of Christ!

Bless ya

Mel


22 posted on 11/08/2014 10:17:56 PM PST by melsec (There's a track, winding back, to an old forgotten shack along the road to Gundagai..)
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To: Steelfish; cva66snipe; melsec
Assuring oneself one is going to heaven is the ultimate act of pride, and pride is the first of the deadly sins.

Only if you're depending on yourself, thinking that you yourself are good enough.

God tells us that we are secure because HE does it.

Security of the believer

John 5:24 Truly, truly, I say to you, whoever hears my word and believes him who sent me has eternal life. He does not come into judgment, but has passed from death to life.

John 10:25-30 Jesus answered them, “I told you, and you do not believe. The works that I do in my Father's name bear witness about me, but you do not believe because you are not among my sheep. My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me. I give them eternal life, and they will never perish, and no one will snatch them out of my hand. My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all, and no one is able to snatch them out of the Father's hand. I and the Father are one.”

1 Corinthians 1:4-8 I give thanks to my God always for you because of the grace of God that was given you in Christ Jesus,that in every way you were enriched in him in all speech and all knowledge—even as the testimony about Christ was confirmed among you—so that you are not lacking in any gift, as you wait for the revealing of our Lord Jesus Christ, who will sustain you to the end, guiltless in the day of our Lord Jesus Christ.

2 Corinthians 1:21-22 And it is God who establishes us with you in Christ, and has anointed us, and who has also put his seal on us and given us his Spirit in our hearts as a guarantee.

2 Corinthians 5:4-8 For while we are still in this tent, we groan, being burdened—not that we would be unclothed, but that we would be further clothed, so that what is mortal may be swallowed up by life. He who has prepared us for this very thing is God, who has given us the Spirit as a guarantee.

So we are always of good courage. We know that while we are at home in the body we are away from the Lord, for we walk by faith, not by sight. Yes, we are of good courage, and we would rather be away from the body and at home with the Lord.

Ephesians 1:13-14 In him you also, when you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation, and believed in him, were sealed with the promised Holy Spirit, who is the guarantee of our inheritance until we acquire possession of it, to the praise of his glory.

Ephesians 4:30 And do not grieve the Holy Spirit of God, by whom you were sealed for the day of redemption.

Colossians 1:13-14 He has delivered us from the domain of darkness and transferred us to the kingdom of his beloved Son, in whom we have redemption, the forgiveness of sins.

Colossians 3:3 For you have died, and your life is hidden with Christ in God.

1 Peter 1:3-5 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ! According to his great mercy, he has caused us to be born again to a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead, to an inheritance that is imperishable, undefiled, and unfading, kept in heaven for you, who by God's power are being guarded through faith for a salvation ready to be revealed in the last time.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/3156607/posts?page=313#313

2 Corinthians 1:21-22 Now he which stablisheth us with you in Christ, and hath anointed us, is God; Who hath also sealed us, and given the earnest of the Spirit in our hearts.

For which the Greek, from the Byzantine, is:

2Corinthians 1:21-22 ο δε βεβαιων ημας συν υμιν εις χριστον και χρισας ημας θεος ο και σφραγισαμενος ημας και δους τον αρραβωνα του πνευματος εν ταις καρδιαις ημων

The first word in bold above is “bebaion,” the idea of confirmation, frequently used in commercial settings to confirm a bargain. Which of course makes sense of the remaining terms used here, which are also elements of a secured contract.

The second word in bold above is “sphragisamenos,” being sealed is to be marked by the signature, signet ring, or other unique proof of identity, that we belong to God, and this sealing is done by God, who is the one taking action in this verse. We do not and cannot seal ourselves. We do not, by our own powers, have access to God’s “signet ring.”

The third bolded word above is “arrabona,” and indicates what we might loosely refer to as earnest money, but in Hebrew culture conveys more the idea of a pledge of covenant, a security given as a guarantee that the deal will go through, though we only receive part payment at the beginning. See ערב for the related Hebrew stem indicating “pledge.”

50 posted on 11/09/2014 2:46:23 PM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: Steelfish

You ignored his post. Yes for us to brag our works constitute salvation as the Muslims and semi-pelagians believe, would be boastful and the sin of pride.

Jesus said if we believe, have faith, trust in Him and His work, and abide in Him we have the Promise of John 14:

Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in God, believe also in me.

2 In my Father’s house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.

3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also.

4 And whither I go ye know, and the way ye know.

Same apostle:

1 John 5:13
9 If we receive the witness of men, the witness of God is greater: for this is the witness of God which he hath testified of his Son.

10 He that believeth on the Son of God hath the witness in himself: he that believeth not God hath made him a liar; because he believeth not the record that God gave of his Son.

11 And this is the record, that God hath given to us eternal life, and this life is in his Son.

12 He that hath the Son hath life; and he that hath not the Son of God hath not life.

13 These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God.


118 posted on 11/10/2014 10:09:34 PM PST by redleghunter (But let your word 'yes be 'yes,' and your 'no be 'no.' Anything more than this is from the evil one.)
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