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To: Mrs. Don-o

“We have to love our gay neighbor more than our position on sexual morality.”

What kind of nonsense psychobabble is this???

No, you hold sexual morality as a sign of love for your neighbor. Otherwise, accepting the immorality is actually a SIGN OF HATE.


2 posted on 11/03/2014 11:16:52 AM PST by Up Yours Marxists
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To: Up Yours Marxists

Exactly. There is no love that is godly that would abandon a biblical position on morality.

Love for God comes before love for neighbor and without it true love for neighbor is impossible. To love God is to love His Law — to meditate on it day and night.

To aid and abet immorality is to hate God, His Law and your neighbor.


10 posted on 11/03/2014 11:27:49 AM PST by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: Up Yours Marxists; GeronL; MDLION; oohebo; Always A Marine; <1/1,000,000th%; make no mistake; ...
I'm not sure that a change in pastoral approach necessarily means an abandonment of doctrine.

When St. Paul famously lists all those whose vices shut the door of the Kingdom of Heaven --- murderers, sex offenders, sodomites, and so forth --- (1 Corinthians 6) and then says "And such were some of you. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God -- that implies that he knew some of these people BEFORE they were washed and sanctified and somehow walked them through the process of repentance and obtaining the grace from God for a different way of life.

The must first entail knowing them and loving them before their conversion.

Just as Jesus knows and loves every person on earth before their conversion.

I don't know how you pastorally "approach" a person without knowing them and loving them.

That must mean you're on good speaking terms. And that you have managed to gain their trust.

Doesn't it?

19 posted on 11/03/2014 11:39:19 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o (Most of us know more from being old, than from being told.)
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To: Up Yours Marxists

To love the sinner and hate the sin, to love the one most in need. The homosexual is a sinner and in need of repentance for all his/her sins including the sexual sins. Since many homosexuals do not think their sexual sins are sins to repent of they are indeed the ones most in need. Pray their ears hear the word of God and their eyes open to see the evil that defines their lives.


30 posted on 11/03/2014 11:59:16 AM PST by cotton (us at)
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