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To: boatbums
The supposed purpose given for why such a place/non-place exists completely negates the well-sourced and Biblically referenced truth that it is JESUS, alone, who is our "place of purgation/cleansing".

And it is in Purgatory that Jesus, through his merits not ours, completes the cleansing of sin from our souls.

By faith, it is in HIS blood that we are washed white as snow, justified from ALL our sins, redeemed from ALL penalties for our sin and born again - counted as children of the Living God sealed by the Holy Spirit until the day of redemption.

And this is the major error of Protestantism. We are redeemed not just from the penalties of sin but from sin itself, that disorientation of the soul rooted in selfishness. Jesus came not just to pay the penalty for our sins but to give us access to the grace of God which makes us truly holy, not merely imputing the holiness of Jesus on those who remain corrupt within. It is in Purgatory that occurs that which St. Paul wrote:

I am confident of this, that the one who began a good work in you will continue to complete it until the day of Christ Jesus.… And this is my prayer: that your love may increase ever more and more in knowledge and every kind of perception, to discern what is of value, so that you may be pure and blameless for the day of Christ, filled with the fruit of righteousness that comes through Jesus Christ for the glory and praise of God. (Phil. 1:6, 9-11)
The work of our salvation is not completed until our love increases and we are filled, not just imputed, with the fruit of righteousness that come through Jesus Christ. Concerned only with our legalistic justification, Protestantism fails to recognize the greater mission of Jesus Christ, our sanctification.
62 posted on 11/02/2014 4:55:13 PM PST by Petrosius
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To: Petrosius
Petrosius wrote: And it is in Purgatory that Jesus, through his merits not ours, completes the cleansing of sin from our souls.

By faith, it is in HIS blood that we are washed white as snow, justified from ALL our sins, redeemed from ALL penalties for our sin and born again - counted as children of the Living God sealed by the Holy Spirit until the day of redemption.
And this is the major error of Protestantism. We are redeemed not just from the penalties of sin but from sin itself, that disorientation of the soul rooted in selfishness. Jesus came not just to pay the penalty for our sins but to give us access to the grace of God which makes us truly holy, not merely imputing the holiness of Jesus on those who remain corrupt within. It is in Purgatory that occurs that which St. Paul wrote:
I am confident of this, that the one who began a good work in you will continue to complete it until the day of Christ Jesus.… And this is my prayer: that your love may increase ever more and more in knowledge and every kind of perception, to discern what is of value, so that you may be pure and blameless for the day of Christ, filled with the fruit of righteousness that comes through Jesus Christ for the glory and praise of God. (Phil. 1:6, 9-11)

The work of our salvation is not completed until our love increases and we are filled, not just imputed, with the fruit of righteousness that come through Jesus Christ. Concerned only with our legalistic justification, Protestantism fails to recognize the greater mission of Jesus Christ, our sanctification.

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So well put.
Thank you for posting.

68 posted on 11/02/2014 5:09:07 PM PST by cloudmountain
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To: Petrosius

(The work of our salvation is not completed until our love increases and we are filled...)

Holy Toledo! Where did you get these ideas.


78 posted on 11/02/2014 5:31:41 PM PST by Resettozero
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To: Petrosius
The work of our salvation is not completed until our love increases and we are filled, not just imputed, with the fruit of righteousness that come through Jesus Christ. Concerned only with our legalistic justification, Protestantism fails to recognize the greater mission of Jesus Christ, our sanctification.

It isn't a failure of Protestantism but that of Roman Catholicism that presumes there is anything within the believer - of himself - to merit or appropriate sanctification as well as justification. We were washed, sanctified and justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and in the Spirit of our God. (I Cor. 6:11) We have been sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all (Heb. 10:10). To assert we must suffer after death for "temporal" penalties due for our sins remaining on our souls is to negate the whole purpose of the cross. We are washed, we are sanctified, we are justified because of Christ and it is our faith in Him through which God GIFTS to us eternal life.

If Purgatory was a doctrine taught by Jesus or the Apostles - something necessary for us to know - it would have been clearly presented in God's word. It is not just our legalistic justification that we rejoice in - though that IS a major issue - but a complete imputation of Christ's righteousness for us - that everything we do we do for Him, for HIS glory, and not our own. No man may be able to boast in His presence, it is all because of grace.

83 posted on 11/02/2014 5:47:05 PM PST by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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To: Petrosius; boatbums
>>Protestantism fails to recognize the greater mission of Jesus Christ, our sanctification.<<

We are already sanctified by Jesus blood.

Hebrews 13:12 Wherefore Jesus also, that he might sanctify the people with his own blood, suffered without the gate.

1 Corinthians 6:11 And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.

1 Corinthians 1:2 Unto the church of God which is at Corinth, to them that are sanctified in Christ Jesus, called to be saints, with all that in every place call upon the name of Jesus Christ our Lord, both theirs and ours:

90 posted on 11/02/2014 6:06:28 PM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: Petrosius
And it is in Purgatory that Jesus, through his merits not ours, completes the cleansing of sin from our souls.

This isn't what other Catholic say...They say the merit comes from the prayin' and payin' they do for those in purgatory...

I am confident of this, that the one who began a good work in you will continue to complete it until the day of Christ Jesus.… And this is my prayer: that your love may increase ever more and more in knowledge and every kind of perception, to discern what is of value, so that you may be pure and blameless for the day of Christ, filled with the fruit of righteousness that comes through Jesus Christ for the glory and praise of God. (Phil. 1:6, 9-11)

The work of our salvation is not completed until our love increases and we are filled, not just imputed, with the fruit of righteousness that come through Jesus Christ. Concerned only with our legalistic justification, Protestantism fails to recognize the greater mission of Jesus Christ, our sanctification.

This has nothing to do with salvation, but sanctification...And yes, we understand sanctification...

We are saved already...And because we are saved God will help us grow to understand his love for us...

Php 1:6 Being confident of this very thing, that he which hath begun a good work in you will perform it until the day of Jesus Christ:

And you erred here...

And this is my prayer: that your love may increase ever more and more in knowledge and every kind of perception, to discern what is of value, so that you may be pure and blameless for the day of Christ

We are not working to become pure and blameless FOR the day of Christ...

Php 1:10 That ye may approve things that are excellent; that ye may be sincere and without offence till the day of Christ;

Sincere does not mean pure...The hope is that we become sincere and without offense and maintain that sincerity til Jesus shows up or our life is over...We are not working to achieve something so that we may stay out of purgatory...

136 posted on 11/02/2014 7:37:19 PM PST by Iscool
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