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To: Gamecock
Thank you for the thought and time you've taken to respond to my post to you.

I appreciate how you've explained the opinions you've come to.

Loving the sinner while hating the sin can be quite a challenge, especially regarding all things sex and now homosexuality.

I know how much I struggle with that love/hate challenge with some in my world and I'm just me with a small circle of influence, not a pastor nor Pope.

Jesus is the only one I can think of who got that one right and His is often a difficult example to follow unless you're fully tuned in to the God Channel.

Otoh, Satan has enjoyed quite a lot of success with it and it may be what trips Osteen up and leads to his downfall, as so often happens with those in the spotlight.

71 posted on 11/01/2014 7:37:40 AM PDT by GBA (Hick with a keyboard.)
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To: GBA; Gamecock
Otoh, Satan has enjoyed quite a lot of success with it and it may be what trips Osteen up and leads to his downfall, as so often happens with those in the spotlight.

Likely it is Satan protecting his own and God is the one who exposes the sin and *let's them get tripped up*.

CS Lewis in his book, Screwtape Letters, points out, and I believe correctly, that Satan would not care one iota if we lived a comfortable, safe life, where we never see our need for God and never come to Him fro salvation. Allowing a person happy, comfortable life to get him into hell for eternity would be a small price to pay for the enemy. Sure, he'd rather destroy us, but I do believe that his ultimate goal is to get people damned and whatever it takes, even if it's prosperity, works for him.

So since you are defending Osteen, do you also adhere to the prosperity gospel he preaches?

Do you think this is your best life now? Or that you can even have it?

73 posted on 11/01/2014 7:55:22 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: GBA
2 Corinthians 11:1-15 I wish you would bear with me in a little foolishness. Do bear with me! For I feel a divine jealousy for you, since I betrothed you to one husband, to present you as a pure virgin to Christ. But I am afraid that as the serpent deceived Eve by his cunning, your thoughts will be led astray from a sincere and pure devotion to Christ. For if someone comes and proclaims another Jesus than the one we proclaimed, or if you receive a different spirit from the one you received, or if you accept a different gospel from the one you accepted, you put up with it readily enough. Indeed, I consider that I am not in the least inferior to these super-apostles. Even if I am unskilled in speaking, I am not so in knowledge; indeed, in every way we have made this plain to you in all things.

Or did I commit a sin in humbling myself so that you might be exalted, because I preached God's gospel to you free of charge? I robbed other churches by accepting support from them in order to serve you. And when I was with you and was in need, I did not burden anyone, for the brothers who came from Macedonia supplied my need. So I refrained and will refrain from burdening you in any way. As the truth of Christ is in me, this boasting of mine will not be silenced in the regions of Achaia. And why? Because I do not love you? God knows I do!

And what I am doing I will continue to do, in order to undermine the claim of those who would like to claim that in their boasted mission they work on the same terms as we do. For such men are false apostles, deceitful workmen, disguising themselves as apostles of Christ. And no wonder, for even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light. So it is no surprise if his servants, also, disguise themselves as servants of righteousness. Their end will correspond to their deeds.

Does Osteen preach the same gospel that Paul preached?

You know something, I don't trust a single one of those televangelists, or TV preachers.

Is how they live in line with Paul's teaching about leadership in the church? Is what they promise what GOD promises us in Scripture?

Why do they live opulent, self-indulgent lifestyles off the donations of people who don't live like that?

That health, wealth, and prosperity teaching is NOT the gospel of salvation. It's not going to get people saved, and trying to use God to cater to the lust of the flesh, the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not going to result in salvation.

74 posted on 11/01/2014 8:02:26 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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