Posted on 10/27/2014 10:02:19 AM PDT by Colofornian
Was commenting on your “even more pleasant and forgiving” bit about “RC”.
Oh...that.
I got the Marty McFly part but...you’re just too good for me.
Thank you for the clarification. It’s been at least fifteen years since I read through the books. Memory here is not quite what it used to be.
Overall, I found the books very inspiring and had no problems with their wisdom.
Unless you meant the one and only original Martin Luther his self.
Sorry to say, yes I have had them in me in the past.
When you do this work you are bound to get stung occasionally just to keep you on your toes and focused upon God for your strength. It’s part of the learning process of being a servant to our Father.
I feel them more than I hear them and I hear them more than I see them. But all three have occurred at different times for me. Prayer is the best tool as it is not me doing the work but the Holy Spirit working through me. All I must do is surrender as my strength comes through my weakness. If I am full of myself then I am in trouble.
high demonic spirits.... “demons get high?”
LOL... thank you for the humorous interpretation to teach me to be more precise in my selection of words.
High as in there is a hierarchy in the dark angelic world just as their is in the Angels of the Light. In this utilization I merely meant “High” in the level within the hierarchy of command is high or toward the top. True demons are up pretty high up in the command structure while most dark angels are merely misguided earthbound spirits that were recruited and live in fear of the Light.
Ha! Yes, Luther, not McFly. :)
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He really doesn't want to, his wife doesn't want him to, his family doesn.... yada yada yada.
But when the Lord Speaks again; he will remember his covenants and his destiny and will, reluctantly, once again unto the breach.
Have at it!
Millions of the Jaredites are slain in battle—Shiz and Coriantumr assemble all the people to mortal combat—The Spirit of the Lord ceases to strive with them—The Jaredite nation is utterly destroyed—Only Coriantumr remains.
1 And it came to pass when Coriantumr had recovered of his wounds, he began to remember the awords which Ether had spoken unto him.
2 He saw that there had been slain by the sword already nearly atwo millions of his people, and he began to sorrow in his heart; yea, there had been slain two millions of mighty men, and also their wives and their children.
3 He began to repent of the evil which he had done; he began to remember the words which had been spoken by the mouth of all the prophets, and he saw them that they were fulfilled thus far, every whit; and his soul amourned and refused to be bcomforted.
4 And it came to pass that he wrote an epistle unto Shiz, desiring him that he would spare the people, and he would give up the kingdom for the sake of the lives of the people.
5 And it came to pass that when Shiz had received his epistle he wrote an epistle unto Coriantumr, that if he would give himself up, that he might slay him with his own sword, that he would spare the lives of the people.
6 And it came to pass that the people repented not of their iniquity; and the people of Coriantumr were stirred up to anger against the people of Shiz; and the people of Shiz were stirred up to anger against the people of Coriantumr; wherefore, the people of Shiz did give battle unto the people of Coriantumr.
7 And when Coriantumr saw that he was about to fall he fled again before the people of Shiz.
8 And it came to pass that he came to the waters of Ripliancum, which, by interpretation, is large, or to exceed all; wherefore, when they came to these waters they pitched their tents; and Shiz also pitched his tents near unto them; and therefore on the morrow they did come to battle.
9 And it came to pass that they fought an exceedingly sore battle, in which Coriantumr was wounded again, and he fainted with the loss of blood.
10 And it came to pass that the armies of Coriantumr did press upon the armies of Shiz that they beat them, that they caused them to flee before them; and they did flee southward, and did pitch their tents in a place which was called Ogath.
11 And it came to pass that the army of Coriantumr did pitch their tents by the hill Ramah; and it was that same hill where my father Mormon did ahide up the records unto the Lord, which were sacred.
12 And it came to pass that they did gather together all the people upon all the face of the land, who had not been slain, save it was Ether.
13 And it came to pass that Ether did abehold all the doings of the people; and he beheld that the people who were for Coriantumr were gathered together to the army of Coriantumr; and the people who were for Shiz were gathered together to the army of Shiz.
14 Wherefore, they were for the space of four years gathering together the people, that they might get all who were upon the face of the land, and that they might receive all the strength which it was possible that they could receive.
15 And it came to pass that when they were all gathered together, every one to the army which he would, with their wives and their children—both men, women and children being armed with aweapons of war, having shields, and bbreastplates, and head-plates, and being clothed after the manner of war—they did march forth one against another to battle; and they fought all that day, and conquered not.
16 And it came to pass that when it was night they were weary, and retired to their camps; and after they had retired to their camps they took up a howling and a alamentation for the loss of the slain of their people; and so great were their cries, their howlings and lamentations, that they did rend the air exceedingly.
17 And it came to pass that on the morrow they did go again to battle, and great and terrible was that day; nevertheless, they conquered not, and when the night came again they did rend the air with their cries, and their howlings, and their mournings, for the loss of the slain of their people.
18 And it came to pass that Coriantumr wrote again an epistle unto Shiz, desiring that he would not come again to battle, but that he would take the kingdom, and spare the lives of the people.
19 But behold, the aSpirit of the Lord had ceased striving with them, and bSatan had full power over the chearts of the people; for they were given up unto the hardness of their hearts, and the blindness of their minds that they might be destroyed; wherefore they went again to battle.
20 And it came to pass that they fought all that day, and when the night came they slept upon their swords.
21 And on the morrow they fought even until the night came.
22 And when the night came they were adrunken with anger, even as a man who is drunken with wine; and they slept again upon their swords.
23 And on the morrow they fought again; and when the night came they had all fallen by the sword save it were fifty and two of the people of Coriantumr, and sixty and nine of the people of Shiz.
24 And it came to pass that they slept upon their swords that night, and on the morrow they fought again, and they contended in their might with their swords and with their shields, all that day.
25 And when the night came there were thirty and two of the people of Shiz, and twenty and seven of the people of Coriantumr.
26 And it came to pass that they ate and slept, and prepared for death on the morrow. And they were large and mighty men as to the strength of men.
27 And it came to pass that they fought for the space of three hours, and they fainted with the loss of blood.
28 And it came to pass that when the men of Coriantumr had received sufficient strength that they could walk, they were about to flee for their lives; but behold, Shiz arose, and also his men, and he swore in his wrath that he would slay Coriantumr or he would perish by the sword.
29 Wherefore, he did pursue them, and on the morrow he did overtake them; and they fought again with the sword. And it came to pass that when they had aall fallen by the sword, save it were Coriantumr and Shiz, behold Shiz had fainted with the loss of blood.
30 And it came to pass that when Coriantumr had leaned upon his sword, that he rested a little, he smote off the head of Shiz.
31 And it came to pass that after he had smitten off the head of Shiz, that Shiz raised up on his hands and afell; and after that he had struggled for breath, he died.
32 And it came to pass that aCoriantumr fell to the earth, and became as if he had no life.
33 And the Lord spake unto Ether, and said unto him: Go forth. And he went forth, and beheld that the words of the Lord had all been fulfilled; and he afinished his brecord; (and the chundredth part I have not written) and he hid them in a manner that the people of Limhi did find them.
34 Now the last words which are written by aEther are these: Whether the Lord will that I be translated, or that I suffer the will of the Lord in the flesh, it mattereth not, if it so be that I am bsaved in the kingdom of God. Amen.
https://www.lds.org/scriptures/bofm/ether/15
And yet the BOOK says...
Ether 14:22
And so swift and speedy was the war that there was none left to bury the dead, but they did march forth from the shedding of blood to the shedding of blood, leaving the bodies of both men, women, and children strewed upon the face of the land, to become a prey to the worms of the flesh.
No...
Ok,,, know what?
I mean no what?
T.P. I'm sure I've pointed out what I am about to say to you & many other FREEPERs. But I will start it out with a fresh approach...and then repeat what I've said for newbies on board...or those who stumble upon this thread via some Internet search:
In any warfare, attacks from the air or the sea or the ground are all weighed. As to which one constituted a greater threat when and where say--during WWII -- depended upon the year, the month, the place, etc.
Just because the U.S. initially gave greater weight to fighting Japan in 1942, didn't mean the U.S. necessarily thought Japan was more of a threat (overall) than Germany. And, as we saw, the Silent Generation rose up to show their ability to multi-task not only on multiple fronts, but multiple national enemies.
Some FREEPERs -- apparently proponents like yourself -- somehow can't seem to imagine how FREEPERs or Evangelicals could possibly oppose Mormonism, cults in general, liberalism, and Islam simultaneously. Somehow, that ability to multi-task seems beyond you (or others).
What I've repeatedly said on these threads:
Only a fool thinks the "brush fire" here on earth is the three-alarm, city-wide meltdown that hell represents.
CNN, don't we take our cultural cue from a certain "Lord" named Jesus Christ? Who are we to follow when it comes to setting cultural priorities? Jesus and the apostle Paul? or some anti-multi-tasking FREEPERS?
Here's Jesus:
"I tell you, my friends, do not be afraid of those who kill the body and after that can do no more. But I will show you whom you should fear: Fear him who, after the killing of the body, has power to throw you into hell. Yes, I tell you, fear him." (Luke 12:4-5)
So does Jesus say, "fear the liberals?" (No)
Does Jesus say "fear the Muslims?" (No)
Instead, does He say to exercise fear of the One who has authority to cast somebody into hell? (Yes)
So, indeed, our "fear" is on behalf of those who are placing their eternal spiritual lives at risk.
As the apostle Paul was leaving the church of Ephesus, he warned them with this high-priority alert:
"I know that after I leave, savage wolves will come in among you and will not spare the flock. Even from your own number men will arise and distort the truth in order to draw away disciples after them. So be on your guard! Remember that for three years I never stopped warning each of you night and day with tears." (Acts 20:29-31)
Paul's cultural priority? (Defend against the false disciples who will proselytize the flock and draw away men unto themselves!)
Tell me something, T.P....: If you did something tearfully night and day for three years, do you think it's rather important? So what? We're just to conclude, "Oh, the man who contributed a good chunk to the New Testament -- what does he know about cultural priorities?"
I'll take Paul's and Jesus' already-revealed priorities to your guesswork based upon "disagreeing with" those willing to contend for the faith once delivered to the saints (Jude 3)
(Can't tell with your post if you're referencing yourself & a need for you to get "psyched up"...or if you're implying that the purposes of these threads are due to a "in case Mitt runs" basis)
If, the latter was the basis of your comment, The OTHER WORLD Series has run now for about four years every Halloween season. And the purpose behind that is to point to the occultic origin and occultic practices and the Magic Worldview behind Mormonism's roots.
Well, First of all, please note my response to T.P. Pole. It's not an "either-or" proposition. We thankfully, don't have to choose your all or nothing scenario of somehow as the Universal Church of Jesus Christ only being able to fight a one-front war (spiritual or otherwise).
Otherwise, we'd have to start clipping passages like Jude 3, like 2 Corinthians 10:3-5, like Titus 1:9-10, and numerous others about the need to defend the truth and to take on heresy (2nd John, 3rd John, Rev. 2, Rev. 3, etc.) -- and just conclude, "Well, hey, Ravenwolf told us these passages aren't relevant on the spiritual warfare front anymore. We've got 'enough to worry' about with sexual aberations, unique family configurations, and Islam!"
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