[Mrs. Don-o]

That's not what I said. I didn't say Christ's sacrifice on the cross was "not enough." It's pointless for you to ask me to prove what I did not say, and do not believe.

Anyway, I was responding to the previous poster who said the Catholic Church insults non-Catholic Christians by saying "... their ministers [are] effectively phonies with no right to give communion."

This is mistaken because as far as I know, such ministers do not even claim they give "Communion" in the same sense claimed by the Catholic Church, i.e. "the Real Body, Blood, Soul and Divinity" of Jesus Christ" present in the Eucharistic Sacrifice.

Therefore these Protestants are not 'phonies' and nobody is calling them 'phonies.' I don't call them phonies. They say they are offering a symbolic meal which in no way, shape of form involves "Transubstantiation" or "Sacrifice," and we say, "Exactly."

We're actually in agreement on that point, if I am not mistaken.

"If I am not mistaken, I am not infallibe." :o)

[Albion Wilde]

It’s true that many of the non-Catholic churches are confused to the point of utter heresy about “communion” or “eucharist.” But fwiw, the Lutheran Church-Missouri Synod (the most orthodox type of Lutheranism in the U.S.) believes that communicants take the real body and blood of Christ at communion.