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To: HamiltonJay
Seems to me the press told a story that wasn’t there.... Saying that a group of sinners are still human being deserving of respect is not a change in church doctrine... Its folks reading what they want to read....

I've been trying to say that. And yet... something is going on. Pope Francis has been eerily silent regarding the statements of Cardinal Kasper.

41 posted on 10/14/2014 4:06:16 PM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

They do this all the time... the Vatican releases a document or statement, or the Pope says something, and the press jump on it as its some radical change in church doctrine or something... and its almost always nonsense.

I admit I did not read the entire document in question, but the excerpts I did see, didn’t come across to me as some radical change of Church doctrine.

No one, not the most conservative catholic on the planet that knows the church cannon would stand up and say there are no place for sinners in the church... that’s idiotic, we are all sinners.

The church sadly has to deal with homosexuality within its ranks, because sadly it decided to make a deal with the devil in the 60s and let admitted but “non practicing” homosexuals into the priesthood. This was a horrific mistake and now there are indeed a good number of practicing homosexuals within the ranks of the preisthoods of the Church and they need to be purged from these positions because their actions are slowly rotting the church from within. However, that does not mean, that the church has a fatwa against homosexuals within its lay membership.

It cannot and will not ever condone their behavior, as its quite clear that homsexuality is not something condoned by God. Sadly though it is a reality, and not a new one, that the church has had to deal with...do you think secular acceptance and even promotion of homosexuality is not something the church has not seen or dealt with before in its 2000 year history?

The problem is reporters are largely utterly ignorant of theology, so they hear something and they think its some radical departure from tradition of the church, and usually its just their ignorance showing through.


52 posted on 10/15/2014 6:56:14 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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