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To: Prophet2520

According to our erudite Prophet: “The reformers that came to America came as settlers, not conquerors. Ideals and principles vs. conquest and greed. In time that pays off.”

But, according to History, the Pilgrims were Calvinists that turn out from being oppressors in Geneve, to be oppressed by their brothers, the Anglican Protestants in England. They came to America in quest of freedom while robbing the Indian’s territories not as conquerors, but as settlers. What a splendid Orwellian manipulation of the language. While on the other hand, the Catholic Spaniards came as conquerors and settled in the New World marrying the natives establishing families that gave to the world a new race, the “mestizo”. The British colonized Australia sending criminals from their jails.

As attested the American professor of History, Dr. Philip W. Powell: “the English government and people, and their New World progeny, exhibited for the most part, a supreme unconcern for the protection and welfare of the American Indian.”

According to American historian Francis C. Kelly: “A surprisingly large proportion of the (Spanish) pioneers of America were college men; and intelligence went hand in hand with heroism in the early settlements of the New World.” Along with the first missionaries many historians arrived, like the Franciscan friar Bernardino de Sahagún and Toribio de Benavente (”Motilínea) who learned the native languages and tried to chronicle their history, traditions and legends, which until then had been handed down by word of mouth among the Indians for generations. With the exception of the Aztecs who left behind pictographic codicils, and the Mayas who had a hieroglyphic system, most of the Indians had no written language. Nothing escaped the inquisitive and sharp eye of these wise men; the flora, the fauna, the mineralogy and the geography of America broadened their intellectual horizons. Many, upon learning in depth about the native cultures, showed great admiration by leaving behind objective records of their experiences. More than 4 million documents and publications of great historical and scientific value from the 16th to the 19th centuries can be presently found at the “Archives of the Indies” in Seville.


23 posted on 10/14/2014 7:37:20 PM PDT by Dqban22
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To: Dqban22

“while robbing the Indian’s territories not as conquerors, but as settlers.”

This is revision lies. I have traced to over 200 of my ancestors who came to New England prior to 1700. They BOUGHT land from the “Indians”. Then later the Indians turned around and slaughtered women and children on the land they had paid for without provocation, as they had been doing against neighboring tribes for thousands of years. If you had any actual history knowledge of how the first Indian war the Pequot war started, you wouldn’t write such nonsense. I have seen the original deeds, wills, and records. I even have a hand written account from an ancestor who was attacked by some “Indians”. You have no clue. Stop reading liberal BS, and read some real history.

I am not surprised that you resort to quoting a barely known modern liberal professor of UCSB with strong Spanish ties, in retort to my quoting renowned historians from 19th century.

You can quote anything you want to tell me about the greatness of Latin America. I just laugh and shake my head. The fact remains the fruit of what Spain did is clearly visible. Please move to Honduras. The fruit of the reformers is plainly visible. America transformed the world toward liberty. If you cant see that, then again I encourage you to move. North Korea is a good option, but not South Korea we freed them, or did you forget that too.


24 posted on 10/15/2014 4:58:00 AM PDT by Prophet2520
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