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-— The please show another infallible source for what the apostles taught -—

“Go and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing... and TEACHING all that I have commanded you to obey” —Jesus

“Listen to the church... If he won’t listen to the church, treat him as a pagan or tax collector.” -— Jesus

The earliest writings of Christians/Church Fathers speak of the authority of the Church. Google, “church fathers authority of the church peter,” or something similar. Compare the arguments of Catholic sources and Protestant sources.

You can also correlate the verses in my tagline to give you a better understanding of the unique office and authority of Peter.

We can trust the inspired nature of Scripture, or Written Tradition, because of the authority given to the Church by Christ Himself. Similarly, the Church is the guardian of Sacred Tradition.

“Listen to the church... If he won’t listen to the church, treat him as a pagan or tax collector.” -— Jesus

No one here is saying that there is no Church. The gates of Hades have still not prevailed against Christ's Church.RCs onboard are saying their organization is the only church of Christ and their muddled theology the only one that is correct,

Also, you took this passage out of context and/or obscured its context in Scripture. That's akin to lying.

>>“Go and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing... and TEACHING all that I have commanded you to obey” —Jesus<<

No proof that what the Catholic Church teaches today is the same the apostles taught.

>>“Listen to the church... If he won’t listen to the church, treat him as a pagan or tax collector.” -— Jesus≤<

Still no proof their the same.

>>The earliest writings of Christians/Church Fathers speak of the authority of the Church.<<

Apostasy and error was already evident during the lives of the apostles. Revelation also shows that to be true. Early church fathers are not proof of what the apostles taught. It has been shown here time and time again there were differences among them. Not trustworthy in the least.

>>You can also correlate the verses in my tagline to give you a better understanding of the unique office and authority of Peter.<

The authority or primacy of Peter has been shown over and over to be fallacy. Paul himself rebuked Peter to his face. When Christ was asked who was greatest He clearly indicated there was no such thing.

>>We can trust the inspired nature of Scripture, or Written Tradition, because of the authority given to the Church by Christ Himself.<<

Christ did NOT give authority to an institution. The Catholic concept of "church" is none existent in scripture.

>>Similarly, the Church is the guardian of Sacred Tradition.<<

Still no proof that what the apostles taught is what the Catholic Church teaches today. All Catholics have is their faith in their "church". That faith supersedes their faith in Christ.

We can trust the inspired nature of Scripture, or Written Tradition, because of the authority given to the Church by Christ Himself. Similarly, the Church is the guardian of Sacred Tradition.

The fallacy is that Scripture is merely written tradition, therefore everything that the Catholic church claims is tradition is of equal inspiration.

Not only that, we are told in Scripture that it was written as men were moved along by the Holy Spirit. None of the writers of the NT give the least indication that what they were writing was merely a transcribing of oral tradition.

Even if some of what was written down was taught orally, that does not mean that oral teaching supersedes the written word, or that it is of greater import.

Catholics like to give all kinds of excuses and justifications for relying on continued revelation of oral tradition, but it is simply not supported in Scripture.

That some truths were taught orally that the Holy Spirit led men to record in Scripture is irrelevant.