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To: editor-surveyor
I deny that anyone’s salvation that is still alive is determined. Scripture affirms this soundly. Every apostle repeats Yeshua’s assertion that only those that endure to the end will be saved.

That is incorrect.

We are saved NOW and can be sure of it because, the God who cannot lie, tells us so.

Jesus tells us that we HAVE, present tense, eternal life now.

John 3:14-18 And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, so must the Son of Man be lifted up, that whoever believes in him may have eternal life. “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but in order that the world might be saved through him. Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only Son of God.

John 5:24 Truly, truly, I say to you, whoever hears my word and believes him who sent me has eternal life. He does not come into judgment, but has passed from death to life.

John 6:40 For this is the will of my Father, that everyone who looks on the Son and believes in him should have eternal life, and I will raise him up on the last day.”

John 11:25-26 Jesus said to her, “I am the resurrection and the life. Whoever believes in me, though he die, yet shall he live, and everyone who lives and believes in me shall never die. Do you believe this?”

John 5:24 Truly, truly, I say to you, whoever hears my word and believes him who sent me has eternal life. He does not come into judgment, but has passed from death to life.

John 10:25-30 Jesus answered them, “I told you, and you do not believe. The works that I do in my Father's name bear witness about me, but you do not believe because you are not among my sheep. My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me. I give them eternal life, and they will never perish, and no one will snatch them out of my hand. My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all, and no one is able to snatch them out of the Father's hand. I and the Father are one.”

3,409 posted on 10/26/2014 4:07:11 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: metmom

>> “We are saved NOW and can be sure of it because, the God who cannot lie, tells us so.” <<

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If you are dead, that may be so.

If you are alive, the word plainly states that you must endure to the end. (Mathew 24)

You simply misunderstand the verses that you posted.

Do not dismiss the true meaning of Belief in God’s word; it is a life long task.
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3,414 posted on 10/26/2014 4:11:31 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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