[terycarl]

There is no such place as purgatory. True believers are totally cleansed by the blood of Christ.

then why does the real bible tell us to pray for the dead???

[CynicalBear]

>>then why does the real bible tell us to pray for the dead???<<

I suppose you're talking about the part that only Catholics use. The part that includes the passage "the birth of a daughter is a loss. and the passage "Any iniquity is insignificant compared to a wife's iniquity." Are you talking about the part that even Josephus said didn't belong?

"From Artexerxes to our own time the complete history has been written but has not been deemed worthy of equal credit with the earlier records because of the failure of the exact succession of the prophets." ... "We have not an innumerable multitude of books among us, disagreeing from and contradicting one another, but only twenty-two books, which contain the records of all the past times; which are justly believed to be divine..."(Flavius Josephus, Against Apion 1:8)

Are you talking about the part where Antiochus Epiphanes is made to die three different deaths in as many different places?

Are you talking about the part that The Manual of Discipline in the Dead Sea Scrolls rejected the apocrypha as inspired? Is that the part you are talking about?

[metmom]

then why does the real bible tell us to pray for the dead???

Show us where we are told to pray for the dead.

Chapter and verse.

[daniel1212]

There is no such place as purgatory. True believers are totally cleansed by the blood of Christ.

then why does the real bible tell us to pray for the dead???

You mean why does one of the books that was disputed down thru the centuries and right in Trent, 2 teach that prayers and sacrifices for the dead are efficacious for men who died in mortal sin, contrary to RC teaching, for which there is no purgatory.

And upon the day following, as the use had been, Judas and his company came to take up the bodies of them that were slain, and to bury them with their kinsmen in their fathers' graves. Now under the coats of every one that was slain they found things consecrated to the idols of the Jamnites, which is forbidden the Jews by the law. Then every man saw that this was the cause wherefore they were slain. (2Ma 12:39-40) .

Thus all you have is an extraBiblical book which proves more than you want, and forces RC apologists to engage in special pleading for damage control.