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To: annalex
>>Yet you cannot even identify which books would have been in the Septuagint version in Paul's day.<<

No I cannot. So what? Am I in a police station?

Hey..you were the one who asserted:

    The fact remains that St. Paul did not find it necessary to qualify his inspired remark about “all scripture” in any way, yet surely he was familiar of the existence of the Septuagint.

That's why I replied,

    Yet you cannot even identify which books would have been in the Septuagint version in Paul's day. All you do is guess, presume, conjecture and wish - though why anyone would wish for writings from uninspired writers to be comingled with the books Jews AND Christians both consider Divinely-inspired is the REAL question. Can you admit that the MAIN reason is because the Council of Trent said so and you have to stand by them?

No, you cannot what? Admit that Trent attached the Apocrypha/Deuterocanonicals to the Divinely-inspired Old Testament canon and that is why you defend them? Or, no, you cannot identify what Apocryphal books were included in the Septuagint in Paul's day and, therefore, you cannot say with any surety Paul meant any of them were part of sacred inspired Scripture ?

Let's not forget that it was your contention that Paul's use of the phrase "all Scripture is given by inspiration of God" in his letter to Timothy meant the Septuagint - and all the books that were part of it. Seeing as you aren't under oath and giving a deposition, I don't see how asking you to clarify yourself is a negative request. If you can't defend your statement or you want to reword or retract it, by all means please do so.

968 posted on 10/08/2014 9:15:50 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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To: boatbums

It is often the case that we read something in the scripture and not fully know the context; yet we obey the scripture as written, including admitting that if some detail is not provided then it is not necessary. The exact composition of “the scripture” is not given by St. Paul, but the qualification “known to thee since infancy” is given. Therefore, however imprecise the composition of the Septuagint was copy to copy (remember, they were not physically one object as modern books are), what was important to st. Paul is that the Septuagint is inspired in any of its configurations.

The issue of canon of the Old Testament did not concern the Church till about 3rd century. we see some fathers approve of the Deuterocanon and others disapprove. Prior to that, the Church was mostly concerned with the provenance and authenticity of the New Testament books. When the Church concerned herself with this issue, she worked out the canon by the early 5 c. The Council of Carthage is evidence that the matter was settled.


1,008 posted on 10/10/2014 6:20:20 PM PDT by annalex (fear them not)
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