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To: BlueDragon

By your logic Septuagint should not have been in the composition that it actually is. Yet somehow, for some reason you cannot explain, the Septuagint included the Deuterocanon.


270 posted on 10/04/2014 10:03:25 PM PDT by annalex (fear them not)
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To: annalex

That the Septuagint actually is? What is this? Must I assume you now arguing along lines of "if it was in the Septuagint then it was Hebrew holy writ"? Is that it?

That make no sense whatsoever. Do you even read what is sent to you???

Here, again, you do need to establish (rather than merely assert or assume) that the Jews either;

Is your own thinking actually that shallow?

And I haven't re-invented the wheel (again!) on this thread, either!

I already touched upon how the Septuagint came into being -- as have others who have pinged you directly also.

It began as translation of the Pentateuch. Other 'books' as it were, were added later. Surely you know this?

We do not know what the contents were at the time of Christ.

And even though it likely there were they duetercanonical works associated with it (bearing in mind it was for a long time not in codex form, but a collection of scrolls) there is no reason to equate the presence of whatever was there, of these works which have been otherwise well enough established to have not EVER been considered by the religious authorities (those who did in fact sit in Moses's seat) to have been part of their holy writings -- to be so simple because Greek translators had put them there.

Why must I repeat every blasted thing I ever say to Roman Catholics on this forum? It's all there in black and white.

Did Jesus read from Greek language scrolls in the Temple in Jerusalem? Or did he read from Hebrew scrolls?

As another forum participant mentioned -- Paul was well versed in Hebrew Law. He WAS a Pharisee. He was by his own description "a Pharisee of Pharisees".

Do you actually suppose that Paul read and studied the collection of what the Jewish religious authorities recognized as Hebrew holy writ -- in Greek???

If so, then you must establish WHY -- rather than have me guess about it.

This showing why (or how) must use sources near as contemporary to time of Christ and the Apostles as is possible.

I say that for reason you do seem to have been ignoring all of those.

But I'm expected to ignore those too, and go instead with whatever "the Church" decided hundreds of years later -- even as it flies in the face of multiple sources and evidences (which may not have been as easily available to Church Councils as they are today, curiously enough...)

277 posted on 10/04/2014 11:02:45 PM PDT by BlueDragon (...they murdered some of them bums...for thinking wrong thoughts)
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To: annalex; BlueDragon
By your logic Septuagint should not have been in the composition that it actually is. Yet somehow, for some reason you cannot explain, the Septuagint included the Deuterocanon.

BD as well as others right on this thread already explained that point. Who is it you think created the Septuagint and why did they? And then, to what version of it are you referring? Do you know the actual history of it?

278 posted on 10/04/2014 11:06:38 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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