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Protecting God’s Word From “Bible Christians”
Crisis Magazine ^ | October 3, 2014 | RICHARD BECKER

Posted on 10/03/2014 2:33:43 PM PDT by NYer

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To: verga

Discuss the issues all you want, but do not make it personal.

“Pointing out” something with an opinion about other posters as if it is a fact is personal and considered mindreading as you can not know another poster’s thoughts.

Please consider carefully the above points as mods don’t wish to spend anymore time removing your posts.


461 posted on 10/05/2014 4:21:01 PM PDT by Religion Moderator
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To: verga

See post 164.


No.

You see John 3:16 and John 19:30.


462 posted on 10/05/2014 4:22:52 PM PDT by Rides_A_Red_Horse (Why do you need a fire extinguisher when you can call the fire department?)
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To: boatbums
LOL! Catholics get confused with all that's going on in this world. Priest diddle little boys but they say others do it too. Women marry women. Men marry men. And girls become boys and vise versa. Catholics can't get divorced then remarried but they can get annulments which make it OK. Catholics can't take the Eucharist if you promote abortion unless you're important enough. It all causes great confusion.
463 posted on 10/05/2014 4:23:15 PM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: verga; metmom

Do tell then. Just what did Jesus mean by *It is finished* if not the work of salvation for mankind? What was finished?

P>Please feel free to repost the ridiculous claims you made previously. I wouldn’t want to give you the chance to whine about cross posting.


see John 3:16 and John 19:30.

Why do I have the impression that the Catholics on FR are not so much interested in His Word and Truth but more obsessed with winning an argument at any cost?


464 posted on 10/05/2014 4:25:05 PM PDT by Rides_A_Red_Horse (Why do you need a fire extinguisher when you can call the fire department?)
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To: editor-surveyor

agitprop is their stock in trade.


465 posted on 10/05/2014 4:25:56 PM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: Rides_A_Red_Horse

>> “Now answer this, what was Satan’s sin; in other words, why was Satan cast from Heaven?” <<

Contrary to popular confusion, Satan has not yet been cast out of heaven. That happens at the mid point of Daniel’s 70th week.

That event is likely to come soon, and when it does, you will see “Antichrist” stand on the Holy Place of the mercy seat of the Ark, and declare himself to be God.

Until then, he remains in the throne room accusing the believers.
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466 posted on 10/05/2014 4:27:18 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: vladimir998; CynicalBear
If you can’t show the apostles taught Matthew’s gospel is inspired and thus all Christian groups are accursed for believing it according to your claim just say so. Don’t keep dancing around.

Correct me if I am wrong, but wasn't Matthew an APOSTLE??!!

467 posted on 10/05/2014 4:27:22 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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To: editor-surveyor; vladimir998; CynicalBear

>> “Do you deny the Gospels of Mark, Matthew, Luke and John?” <<

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Vlad is just shoving standard catholic agitprop at us.


How odd to ignore such a simple question.

If you deny Him before man, He will deny you before God the Father. Just something to think about.


468 posted on 10/05/2014 4:27:41 PM PDT by Rides_A_Red_Horse (Why do you need a fire extinguisher when you can call the fire department?)
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To: metmom; St_Thomas_Aquinas; narses; caww; CynicalBear; mlizzy; verga; sasportas

God cares about what we DO more than what we SAY.


Matthew 21:28-32

“What do you think? There was a man who had two sons. He went to the first and said, ‘Son, go and work today in the vineyard.’

“‘I will not,’ he answered, but later he changed his mind and went.

“Then the father went to the other son and said the same thing. He answered, ‘I will, sir,’ but he did not go.

“Which of the two did what his father wanted?”

“The first,” they answered.

Jesus said to them, “Truly I tell you, the tax collectors and the prostitutes are entering the kingdom of God ahead of you. For John came to you to show you the way of righteousness, and you did not believe him, but the tax collectors and the prostitutes did. And even after you saw this, you did not repent and believe him.


469 posted on 10/05/2014 4:32:48 PM PDT by Rides_A_Red_Horse (Why do you need a fire extinguisher when you can call the fire department?)
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To: Rides_A_Red_Horse; ConservingFreedom; Unam Sanctam; x_plus_one; Patton@Bastogne; Oldeconomybuyer; ..

So you cannot answer “yes” you just spew examples that you know - if you actually were Catholic and taught as a Catholic is taught - are NOT examples of Godhood. Right?


470 posted on 10/05/2014 4:33:26 PM PDT by narses ( For the Son of man shall come ... and then will he render to every man according to his works.)
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To: verga

???


471 posted on 10/05/2014 4:34:16 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Rides_A_Red_Horse
>>It’s like someone has prepared the most incredible feast and you bring along a pizza because “that’s great but it’s not enough to get the job done.”<<

Great analogy.

472 posted on 10/05/2014 4:34:19 PM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: Rides_A_Red_Horse; Religion Moderator

In the Religion forum, on a thread titled Protecting God’s Word From “Bible Christians”, Rides_A_Red_Horse wrote:

You sound EXACTLY like a CERTAIN SERPENT in a garden.

Seems a bit over the line, no?


473 posted on 10/05/2014 4:34:22 PM PDT by narses ( For the Son of man shall come ... and then will he render to every man according to his works.)
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To: editor-surveyor

Good point. The non-temporal nature of God can make things a bit confusing at times.


474 posted on 10/05/2014 4:42:08 PM PDT by Rides_A_Red_Horse (Why do you need a fire extinguisher when you can call the fire department?)
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To: metmom
The whole discussion about cutting yourself for the dead began because someone with precious little knowledge of Scripture claimed that the Bible did not prohibit cutting oneself for the dead.

I know, and when you showed where in Scripture God specifically forbid the practice, you were met with snarky challenges that showed an even worse understanding of God's word - as if Jesus' sacrifice on the cross made it okay for God's children to ignore everything He ever told us.

475 posted on 10/05/2014 4:42:23 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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To: narses; Religion Moderator

Seems a bit over the line, no?


There you go again, Narses.

Initially you asked “Were you ever taught that Mary was God or even god? Were you ever taught that she was divine? Were you ever taught that she was due worship or taught to worship her?”

I replied “I already answered yes to all of your questions by giving examples.” Those examples are on this thread.

You said “Really? You claim the Church taught you Mary is God?”

A reasonable person might say that sounds an awful lot like “Did God really say, ‘You must not eat from any tree in the garden’?” It’s got that “Gotcha” tone to it.

Again, I said you ought to go back and read your questions and my answers. You’re behavior appears to be an attempt to set up word-snares and legalistic traps rather than to debate the merits of the subject.


476 posted on 10/05/2014 4:44:53 PM PDT by Rides_A_Red_Horse (Why do you need a fire extinguisher when you can call the fire department?)
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To: narses; Rides_A_Red_Horse; Religion Moderator

>> “Seems a bit over the line, no?” <<

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No, definitely not. If it is accurate, how can it be over any line?
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477 posted on 10/05/2014 4:46:12 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: metmom; verga

My Bible already has red in it.


You too? Imagine that!


478 posted on 10/05/2014 4:46:49 PM PDT by Rides_A_Red_Horse (Why do you need a fire extinguisher when you can call the fire department?)
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To: verga
Earth to verga...there IS no "Prot posse". And, even of there were, I can certainly speak about what is part of the CHRISTIAN faith without the approval of others.

It is surprising that you would call "ridiculous" the truth that when Jesus said, "It is finished.", he was speaking of making complete propitiation for the sins of the world. I've got plenty of Scripture to back that up if you don't believe it.

479 posted on 10/05/2014 4:50:52 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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To: verga; metmom
It's not presumption when you have the proof already thrown at you countless times. Since you're showing all this concern about integrity, can you go ahead and demonstrate what you would have replied if the answer was simply "yes" or "no"?

The fact that you chose to ask a question that you certainly SHOULD have known was not a simple yes or no one, shows who is the one speaking volumes here? Gotcha questions are tricks of those who have an agenda and who really have no interest in honest answers.

480 posted on 10/05/2014 4:57:58 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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