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Protecting God’s Word From “Bible Christians”
Crisis Magazine ^ | October 3, 2014 | RICHARD BECKER

Posted on 10/03/2014 2:33:43 PM PDT by NYer

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“Stand firm and hold fast to the traditions that you were taught,
either by an oral statement or by a letter of ours.”
~ St. Paul to the Thessalonians

A former student of mine is thinking of becoming a Catholic, and she had a question for me. “I don’t understand the deuterocanonical books,” she ventured. “If the Catholic faith is supposed to be a fulfillment of the Jewish faith, why do Catholics accept those books and the Jews don’t?” She’d done her homework, and was troubled that the seven books and other writings of the deuterocanon had been preserved only in Greek instead of Hebrew like the rest of the Jewish scriptures—which is part of the reason why they were classified, even by Catholics, as a “second” (deutero) canon.

My student went on. “I’m just struggling because there are a lot of references to those books in Church doctrine, but they aren’t considered inspired Scripture. Why did Luther feel those books needed to be taken out?” she asked. “And why are Protestants so against them?”

The short answer sounds petty and mean, but it’s true nonetheless: Luther jettisoned those “extra” Old Testament books—Tobit, Sirach, 1 and 2 Maccabees, and the like—because they were inconvenient. The Apocrypha (or, “false writings”), as they came to be known, supported pesky Catholic doctrines that Luther and other reformers wanted to suppress—praying for the dead, for instance, and the intercession of the saints. Here’s John Calvin on the subject:

Add to this, that they provide themselves with new supports when they give full authority to the Apocryphal books. Out of the second of the Maccabees they will prove Purgatory and the worship of saints; out of Tobit satisfactions, exorcisms, and what not. From Ecclesiasticus they will borrow not a little. For from whence could they better draw their dregs?

However, the deuterocanonical literature was (and is) prominent in the liturgy and very familiar to that first generation of Protestant converts, so Luther and company couldn’t very well ignore it altogether. Consequently, those seven “apocryphal” books, along with the Greek portions of Esther and Daniel, were relegated to an appendix in early Protestant translations of the Bible.

Eventually, in the nineteenth century sometime, many Protestant Bible publishers starting dropping the appendix altogether, and the modern translations used by most evangelicals today don’t even reference the Apocrypha at all. Thus, the myth is perpetuated that nefarious popes and bishops have gotten away with brazenly foisting a bunch of bogus scripture on the ignorant Catholic masses.

Nothing could be further from the truth.

To begin with, it was Luther and Calvin and the other reformers who did all the foisting. The Old Testament that Christians had been using for 1,500 years had always included the so-called Apocrypha, and there was never a question as to its canonicity. Thus, by selectively editing and streamlining their own versions of the Bible according to their sectarian biases (including, in Luther’s case, both Testaments, Old and New), the reformers engaged in a theological con game. To make matters worse, they covered their tracks by pointing fingers at the Catholic Church for “adding” phony texts to the closed canon of Hebrew Sacred Writ.

In this sense, the reformers were anticipating what I call the Twain-Jefferson approach to canonical revisionism. It involves two simple steps.

The reformers justified their Twain-Jefferson humbug by pointing to the canon of scriptures in use by European Jews during that time, and it did not include those extra Catholic books—case closed! Still unconvinced? Today’s defenders of the reformers’ biblical reshaping will then proceed to throw around historical precedent and references to the first-century Council of Jamnia, but it’s all really smoke and mirrors.

The fact is that the first-century Jewish canon was pretty mutable and there was no universal definitive list of sacred texts. On the other hand, it is indisputable that the version being used by Jesus and the Apostles during that time was the Septuagint—the Greek version of the Hebrew scriptures that included Luther’s rejected apocryphal books. SCORE: Deuterocanon – 1; Twain-Jefferson Revisionism – 0.

But this is all beside the point. It’s like an argument about creationism vs. evolution that gets funneled in the direction of whether dinosaurs could’ve been on board Noah’s Ark. Once you’re arguing about that, you’re no longer arguing about the bigger issue of the historicity of those early chapters in Genesis. The parallel red herring here is arguing over the content of the Christian Old Testament canon instead of considering the nature of authority itself and how it’s supposed to work in the Church, especially with regards to the Bible.

I mean, even if we can settle what the canon should include, we don’t have the autographs (original documents) from any biblical books anyway. While we affirm the Church’s teaching that all Scripture is inspired and teaches “solidly, faithfully and without error that truth which God wanted put into sacred writings” (DV 11), there are no absolutes when it comes to the precise content of the Bible.

Can there be any doubt that this is by God’s design? Without the autographs, we are much less tempted to worship a static book instead of the One it reveals to us. Even so, it’s true that we are still encouraged to venerate the Scriptures, but we worship the incarnate Word—and we ought not confuse the two. John the Baptist said as much when he painstakingly distinguished between himself, the announcer, and the actual Christ he was announcing. The Catechism, quoting St. Bernard, offers a further helpful distinction:

The Christian faith is not a “religion of the book.” Christianity is the religion of the “Word” of God, a word which is “not a written and mute word, but the Word is incarnate and living.”

Anyway, with regards to authority and the canon of Scripture, Mark Shea couldn’t have put it more succinctly than his recent response to a request for a summary of why the deuterocanon should be included in the Bible:

Because the Church in union with Peter, the pillar and ground of the truth (1 Timothy 3:15) granted authority by Christ to loose and bind (Matthew 16:19), says they should be.

Right. The Church says so, and that’s good enough.

For it’s the Church who gives us the Scriptures. It’s the Church who preserves the Scriptures and tells us to turn to them. It’s the Church who bathes us in the Scriptures with the liturgy, day in and day out, constantly watering our souls with God’s Word. Isn’t it a bit bizarre to be challenging the Church with regards to which Scriptures she’s feeding us with? “No, mother,” the infant cries, “not breast milk! I want Ovaltine! Better yet, how about some Sprite!”

Think of it this way. My daughter Margaret and I share an intense devotion to Betty Smith’s remarkable novel, A Tree Grows in Brooklyn. It’s a bittersweet family tale of impoverishment, tragedy, and perseverance, and we often remark how curious it is that Smith’s epic story receives so little attention.

I was rooting around the sale shelf at the public library one day, and I happened upon a paperback with the name “Betty Smith” on the spine. I took a closer look: Joy in the Morning, a 1963 novel of romance and the struggles of newlyweds, and it was indeed by the same Smith of Tree fame. I snatched it up for Meg.

The other day, Meg thanked me for the book, and asked me to be on the lookout for others by Smith. “It wasn’t nearly as good as Tree,” she said, “and I don’t expect any of her others to be as good. But I want to read everything she wrote because Tree was so wonderful.”

See, she wants to get to know Betty Smith because of what she encountered in A Tree Grows in Brooklyn. And all we have are her books and other writings; Betty Smith herself is gone.

But Jesus isn’t like that. We have the book, yes, but we have more. We still have the Word himself.



TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; Evangelical Christian; Theology
KEYWORDS: apocrypha; bible; calvin; christians; herewegoagain; luther
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To: metmom

Oh the many pitfalls of following some “denomination” rather than scripture.


301 posted on 10/05/2014 7:10:59 AM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: editor-surveyor; boatbums
No, Paul did not write in Greek, he could barely speak a few words in Greek. Everything he wrote was written in the language of Yehova.

The Greek translations, no two of which even agree with each other, are simply what predominantly survived Rome’s purge of what they knew to be God’s word, because it was written in the language that he commissioned.


Given that Matthew was likely written to the Jews and that Hebrews was specifically addressed to the Jews, an argument that those two books were written in Hebrew or Aramaic is reasonable. The problem with the rest of the NT being written in Hebrew is that they are all addressed to Gentile audiences, who would not speak Hebrew. It would be very odd for Jesus to ordain Paul as the Apostle to the Gentiles if he spoke little Greek.
302 posted on 10/05/2014 7:13:52 AM PDT by ronnietherocket3 (Mary is understood by the heart, not study of scripture.)
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To: verga; boatbums; metmom; Salvation; narses
>>Were you ever taught that she was divine? Were you ever taught that she was due worship or taught to worship her?<<

"Actions speak louder then words" comes to mind. Catholics after all do like Jame's "I'll show you my faith by my works". I can assure you that watching their " works" one can easily see that their faith is in Mary.

303 posted on 10/05/2014 7:17:27 AM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: verga; metmom; CynicalBear; caww

I am pretty sure that David suffered: 2 Samuel 12:13 And David said unto Nathan, I have sinned against the LORD. And Nathan said unto David, The LORD also hath put away thy sin; thou shalt not die.


So why does the priest prescribe “ten ‘Our Fathers’ and ten ‘Hail Marys’” instead of thirty lashes? After all, you believe we need to “suffer” for forgiveness.

You really should learn the concepts of “grace” and “mercy.”


304 posted on 10/05/2014 7:17:42 AM PDT by Rides_A_Red_Horse (Why do you need a fire extinguisher when you can call the fire department?)
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To: metmom
The problem with purgatory is that it can’t contribute to the forgiveness of sins.
Suffering does not result in forgiveness because without the shedding of blood, there is no forgiveness of sin.
The shedding of blood is the ONLY means by which forgiveness is granted.

So at the very least, purgatory is useless, meaningless suffering.


Purgatory is penalty for sins committed on Earth but not sins for which penance has been done. The point of Purgatory is not forgiveness, but purification.
305 posted on 10/05/2014 7:21:55 AM PDT by ronnietherocket3 (Mary is understood by the heart, not study of scripture.)
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To: NKP_Vet; BlueDragon

The Catholic Church came before the gospels. End of subject. Move on.


I wish you would hold at least half the reverence for Jesus that you have for the Catholic Church.

Where your heart is you’ll find what you treasure.


306 posted on 10/05/2014 7:22:34 AM PDT by Rides_A_Red_Horse (Why do you need a fire extinguisher when you can call the fire department?)
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To: vladimir998; Elsie

These Catholics sound exactly like the Pharisees.


307 posted on 10/05/2014 7:23:54 AM PDT by Rides_A_Red_Horse (Why do you need a fire extinguisher when you can call the fire department?)
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To: Rides_A_Red_Horse; verga; metmom; caww

I think Catholics believe you earn grace and mercy.


308 posted on 10/05/2014 7:24:55 AM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: verga; metmom; CynicalBear; caww

Don’t you constantly bring up “It is finished... What is finished?”


If you believed in Jesus you would accept “It is Finished” and then you wouldn’t need purgatory.


309 posted on 10/05/2014 7:27:14 AM PDT by Rides_A_Red_Horse (Why do you need a fire extinguisher when you can call the fire department?)
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To: Rides_A_Red_Horse

Without the Catholic Church, FOUNDED by Christ, you would have idea who Christ is. You will still be praying to the sun gods.


310 posted on 10/05/2014 7:39:56 AM PDT by NKP_Vet
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To: Rides_A_Red_Horse
I wish you would hold at least half the reverence for Jesus that you have for the Catholic Church.

Reverence for Christ's Church is reverence for Jesus.

To reject the Authority of Christ's Church is to reject the Authority of Christ.

Christ identifies Himself with His Church.

Jesus said to Saul, "why do you persecute me?"

That's why Jesus said to those who reject the authority of His Church, "if he will not listen to the Church, treat him as a pagan or tax collector."

Paul tells us that the Church is "the pillar and foundation of truth," and that It is "the Body of Christ."

What subject did Jesus preach on the most? The fact that He was establishing a Kingdom. There are 155 mentions of "Kingdom" in the New Testament.

311 posted on 10/05/2014 7:40:55 AM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: NKP_Vet; Rides_A_Red_Horse

You might want to consider which religion has the most sunburst symbols in it’s religious rituals.


312 posted on 10/05/2014 7:44:08 AM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas; Rides_A_Red_Horse
>>Christ identifies Himself with His Church.<<

The fallacy that the Catholic Church is that body is fiction and a lie of Satan.

313 posted on 10/05/2014 7:47:03 AM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: editor-surveyor; mrobisr
Try reading John’s first epistle. Love will not permit transgression of Torah, as he that loves Yeshua follows his commandments.

Hebrews (10) states that the Law has a Shadow of good things to come. It then states that the first is abolished to establish the second.

Your simplistic attempt at avoidance of obedience is comic book theology, and theology of any kind is contrary to the word of God.

Do you have anything from the Bible to back up the claim that theology is contrary to the Word of God?
314 posted on 10/05/2014 7:47:21 AM PDT by ronnietherocket3 (Mary is understood by the heart, not study of scripture.)
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To: verga; metmom
Hi verga.  MM is right on with categories here.  The suffering of chastisement is of great value to one who is already a child of God, and a living person, not dead. But to those who have died unredeemed, suffering is either pure retribution for sin, or simply the inescapable, natural consequence of the absence of God's favor, but in any case final, and not a system of progressive remediation (cf. purgatory as an analog to reincarnation and it's adverse theological consequences). But I am unaware of any place in the Scriptures we share in common where it is presented as remedial for those who have passed from this life (even those in a supposed "state of grace," which is double-speak, because what good is a partial grace that provides no relief from the full measure of guilt?) :

Heb 9:27-28  And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:  (28)  So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.

So the model we have for the atonement, the death of Christ, and the judgment for our sin in Him, is based on the general model of dying once, then facing judgment, for all of humanity.  But for the fact that our judgment as believers was already executed in the execution of Christ, we would upon death stand naked before God with no excuse for our sin, no mitigation of our just punishment for it, and no remediation offered, no relief from guilt in a million lifetimes of suffering, but only judgment, just as the writer of Hebrews says.

Peace,

SR


315 posted on 10/05/2014 7:58:14 AM PDT by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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To: Rides_A_Red_Horse
If you believed in Jesus you would accept “It is Finished” and then you wouldn’t need purgatory.

There's a difference between Christ's atoning death, our personal salvation, and our personal sanctification.

2 Maccabees

39 On the following day, since the task had now become urgent, Judas and his companions went to gather up the bodies of the fallen and bury them with their kindred in their ancestral tombs.

40 But under the tunic of each of the dead they found amulets sacred to the idols of Jamnia, which the law forbids the Jews to wear. So it was clear to all that this was why these men had fallen.

41 They all therefore praised the ways of the Lord, the just judge who brings to light the things that are hidden.

42 Turning to supplication, they prayed that the sinful deed might be fully blotted out. The noble Judas exhorted the people to keep themselves free from sin, for they had seen with their own eyes what had happened because of the sin of those who had fallen.

43 He then took up a collection among all his soldiers, amounting to two thousand silver drachmas, which he sent to Jerusalem to provide for an expiatory sacrifice. In doing this he acted in a very excellent and noble way, inasmuch as he had the resurrection in mind;

44 for if he were not expecting the fallen to rise again, it would have been superfluous and foolish to pray for the dead.

45 But if he did this with a view to the splendid reward that awaits those who had gone to rest in godliness, it was a holy and pious thought.

46 Thus he made atonement for the dead that they might be absolved from their sin.

Yes, Luther removed 2 Maccabees from his Bible because of its support for the practice of praying for the dead, and its support for the Church's doctrine of Purgatory.

But Luther couldn't erase the fact that this is a historical Jewish practice that continues to this day with the Orthodox Jews.

Is Purgatory a Catholic Invention?

316 posted on 10/05/2014 8:05:06 AM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: CynicalBear
And of course that was a word never before used and should fully be credited to the Catholic Church right??

Finally a 1005 accurate and honest answer form a prot. Thank you I knew one of you would stumble over it eventually.

The trick is now going to see if you can remember this and correct other prots when they say otherwise.

317 posted on 10/05/2014 8:09:06 AM PDT by verga (Conservative, leaning libertarian)
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To: verga

I suppose for those comprehension challenged I should have included the sarcasm tag.


318 posted on 10/05/2014 8:27:28 AM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: CynicalBear

Post 164


319 posted on 10/05/2014 8:52:59 AM PDT by verga (Conservative, leaning libertarian)
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To: verga

Actions speak louder than words.


320 posted on 10/05/2014 9:32:44 AM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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