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top8305 Jerry • 21 hours ago

Bro,

The "other left" will be the faithful as it was with Noah: the good stayed and endured/persevered in faith and the evil were "taken" away by The Flood. Catholic doctrine holds for a rapture of sorts, but not until the Last Day, no pre-, post- or multiple rapture(s). The Faithful will stay behind as it was with Noah (Mt 24:37-41; Lk 17:26-36).

Rapture theology is a false teaching that wasn't even a matter of belief until recently, another tradition of man as evidenced by the source and lack of historicity in Christian faith, which is guided by the Holy Ghost as per The Promise of Christ (Jn 16:13, cf. Isa 58:11).

According to the very words of Christ Jesus (ipsissima verba), the faithful will be raised on the LAST DAY and not before; while, on the LAST DAY the unfaithful will be condemned: all is relative to the LAST DAY:

Jn 6:39 And this is the will of the one who sent me, that I should not lose anything of what he gave me, but that I should raise it [on] the last day. Jn 6:40 For this is the will of my Father, that everyone who sees the Son and believes in him may have eternal life, and I shall raise him [on] the last day." Jn 6:44 No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draw him, and I will raise him on the last day.

Jn 6:54 Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise him on the last day.

Jn 12:48 Whoever rejects me and does not accept my words has something to judge him: the word that I spoke, it will condemn him on the last day, When expressed by a disciple, our Lord Jesus did not correct the understanding:

Jn 11:24 Martha said to him, "I know he will rise, in the resurrection on the last day."

Jn 17:15 I do not ask that you take them out of the world but that you keep them from the evil one.

God doesn’t want Christians out of the world in order to escape persecution and conflict; He wants the ungodly out! Our mission is to convert the world, not to flee from it. Jesus is praying that Christians should not be "raptured" — taken out — of the world. This is the consistent message of the Bible: that God’s covenant people will inherit all things and that the ungodly will be disinherited and driven out.

[see Pro 2:21-22 and Pro 10:30]: Pro 2:21-22 [21] For the upright will dwell in the land,people of integrity will remain in it; [22] But the wicked will be cut off from the land, the faithless will be rooted out of it.

Pro 10:30 The just will never be disturbed, but the wicked will not abide in the land.

Rapture theology must be able to account for all of God's Word, but does not...

Remember that the Church is the Pillar and Foundation of Truth (1 Tim 3:15), not some fallible interpretations that contradict each other and ignore swaths of Scripture and Christian Doctrine.

The Peace of Christ be with you
222 posted on 10/02/2014 6:33:08 AM PDT by Not gonna take it anymore (If Obama were twice as smart as he is, he would be a wit)
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To: Not gonna take it anymore
Jn 12:48 Whoever rejects me and does not accept my words has something to judge him: the word that I spoke, it will condemn him on the last day, When expressed by a disciple, our Lord Jesus did not correct the understanding:

As you can see, it's the bible that's going judge you at judgment time...Your religion isn't going to be judging anyone...You'd better know the bible...You'd better get it right...

The "other left" will be the faithful as it was with Noah: the good stayed and endured/persevered in faith and the evil were "taken" away by The Flood. Catholic doctrine holds for a rapture of sorts, but not until the Last Day, no pre-, post- or multiple rapture(s). The Faithful will stay behind as it was with Noah (Mt 24:37-41; Lk 17:26-36).

Here you have an example of a resurrection...The good guys stay on the earth, the bad guys leave...

According to the very words of Christ Jesus (ipsissima verba), the faithful will be raised on the LAST DAY and not before; while, on the LAST DAY the unfaithful will be condemned: all is relative to the LAST DAY:

Here, you have the good guys leaving the earth, the bad guys stay...

Jn 6:39 And this is the will of the one who sent me, that I should not lose anything of what he gave me, but that I should raise it [on] the last day. Jn 6:40 For this is the will of my Father, that everyone who sees the Son and believes in him may have eternal life, and I shall raise him [on] the last day." Jn 6:44 No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draw him, and I will raise him on the last day.

Here again, the good guys go up and the bad guys stay...

God doesn’t want Christians out of the world in order to escape persecution and conflict; He wants the ungodly out! Our mission is to convert the world, not to flee from it. Jesus is praying that Christians should not be "raptured" — taken out — of the world. This is the consistent message of the Bible: that God’s covenant people will inherit all things and that the ungodly will be disinherited and driven out.

Here, you have the good guy inheriting everything on the earth and staying...The bad guys will be driven out...

[see Pro 2:21-22 and Pro 10:30]: Pro 2:21-22 [21] For the upright will dwell in the land,people of integrity will remain in it; [22] But the wicked will be cut off from the land, the faithless will be rooted out of it.

Now here again, the good guys stay on the earth and the bad guys leave...

Remember that the Church is the Pillar and Foundation of Truth (1 Tim 3:15), not some fallible interpretations that contradict each other and ignore swaths of Scripture and Christian Doctrine.

Now this is RICH!!!

229 posted on 10/02/2014 5:28:18 PM PDT by Iscool
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