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To: Iscool

Your street theology won’t do. Go ask the scores of Protestant theologians who converted to Catholicism why they ditched their former beliefs calling them “shallow “ in the process.


1,699 posted on 10/05/2014 3:05:14 PM PDT by Steelfish (ui)
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To: Steelfish; Iscool
You are aware, aren't you, that Jesus did not call ONE religious leader to follow Him.

He called sinners, tax collectors, a zealot, fishermen, prostitutes, all the people that the religious people in their pride and arrogance, rejected.

The Pharisee and the Tax Collector

Luke 18:9-14 He also told this parable to some who trusted in themselves that they were righteous, and treated others with contempt: “Two men went up into the temple to pray, one a Pharisee and the other a tax collector. The Pharisee, standing by himself, prayed thus: ‘God, I thank you that I am not like other men, extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even like this tax collector. I fast twice a week; I give tithes of all that I get.’

But the tax collector, standing far off, would not even lift up his eyes to heaven, but beat his breast, saying, ‘God, be merciful to me, a sinner!’ I tell you, this man went down to his house justified, rather than the other. For everyone who exalts himself will be humbled, but the one who humbles himself will be exalted.”

Matthew 23:1-36 Then Jesus said to the crowds and to his disciples, “The scribes and the Pharisees sit on Moses' seat, so do and observe whatever they tell you, but not the works they do. For they preach, but do not practice. They tie up heavy burdens, hard to bear, and lay them on people's shoulders, but they themselves are not willing to move them with their finger. They do all their deeds to be seen by others. For they make their phylacteries broad and their fringes long, and they love the place of honor at feasts and the best seats in the synagogues and greetings in the marketplaces and being called rabbi by others.

But you are not to be called rabbi, for you have one teacher, and you are all brothers. And call no man your father on earth, for you have one Father, who is in heaven. Neither be called instructors, for you have one instructor, the Christ. The greatest among you shall be your servant. Whoever exalts himself will be humbled, and whoever humbles himself will be exalted.

“But woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you shut the kingdom of heaven in people's faces. For you neither enter yourselves nor allow those who would enter to go in. Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you travel across sea and land to make a single proselyte, and when he becomes a proselyte, you make him twice as much a child of hell as yourselves.

“Woe to you, blind guides, who say, ‘If anyone swears by the temple, it is nothing, but if anyone swears by the gold of the temple, he is bound by his oath.’ You blind fools! For which is greater, the gold or the temple that has made the gold sacred? And you say, ‘If anyone swears by the altar, it is nothing, but if anyone swears by the gift that is on the altar, he is bound by his oath.’ You blind men! For which is greater, the gift or the altar that makes the gift sacred? So whoever swears by the altar swears by it and by everything on it. And whoever swears by the temple swears by it and by him who dwells in it. And whoever swears by heaven swears by the throne of God and by him who sits upon it.

“Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you tithe mint and dill and cumin, and have neglected the weightier matters of the law: justice and mercy and faithfulness. These you ought to have done, without neglecting the others. You blind guides, straining out a gnat and swallowing a camel!

“Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you clean the outside of the cup and the plate, but inside they are full of greed and self-indulgence. You blind Pharisee! First clean the inside of the cup and the plate, that the outside also may be clean.

“Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you are like whitewashed tombs, which outwardly appear beautiful, but within are full of dead people's bones and all uncleanness. So you also outwardly appear righteous to others, but within you are full of hypocrisy and lawlessness.

“Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you build the tombs of the prophets and decorate the monuments of the righteous, saying, ‘If we had lived in the days of our fathers, we would not have taken part with them in shedding the blood of the prophets.’ Thus you witness against yourselves that you are sons of those who murdered the prophets. Fill up, then, the measure of your fathers. You serpents, you brood of vipers, how are you to escape being sentenced to hell?

Therefore I send you prophets and wise men and scribes, some of whom you will kill and crucify, and some you will flog in your synagogues and persecute from town to town, so that on you may come all the righteous blood shed on earth, from the blood of righteous Abel to the blood of Zechariah the son of Barachiah, whom you murdered between the sanctuary and the altar. Truly, I say to you, all these things will come upon this generation.

1,700 posted on 10/05/2014 4:03:19 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: Steelfish
Your street theology won’t do. Go ask the scores of Protestant theologians who converted to Catholicism why they ditched their former beliefs calling them “shallow “ in the process.

I've read some of their testimonies...The one thing they have in common is they never found Jesus where they were at, not that they were even looking...

Without Jesus, you are without the Holy Spirit...Without the Holy Spirit, the bible is no more than a historical, shallow book...

So you want to be a minister or whatever and you have a bible and it is written in 8th grade English but you can't seem to get anything out of it...So what do you need??? More education...

Education in the bible??? Nope, that's not attainable without the Holy Spirit...So then you have no choice but to turn to human philosophy...Likely if you are already in a bible rejecting church, you've already had numerous courses in human philosophy...You don't get anything from the bible but you need some wisdom...Man's wisdom...Man's wisdom teaches you that you can reason out under your own power to understand God...

You get educated right out of the simplicity of the scriptures...You learn religious history...Study up on the church fathers who agree with your human wisdom and knowledge...

That wisdom tells you that there couldn't possibly have been a worldwide flood...That's foolish...A guy in a whale for 3 days??? Bah... Aristotle would never approve...

They quit believing the bible or never did to begin with...

The bible clearly teaches what the church is...If Scott Hahn would have believed the word of God, he never could have become Catholic...

Short story is, these guys end up in a religion where humanist philosophy is King...That would be your religion...They're educated, self-made intellectuals and don't know a thing about God...And they fit right in...

Of course that's the very short story...

1,701 posted on 10/05/2014 4:33:31 PM PDT by Iscool
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