"If you are going to make an argument by pulling in way out beliefs as a straw man in your discussion with me, it will be a short and useless interaction. I do not believe blessed Mary was a whore. I do not believe Jesus Christ is burning in hell. It isn’t even worth discussing something that is a false argument."
ROTFLOL, the usual which amounts to:
"Point out the glaring contradictions in what I say and I'll take my toys and go home"
Don't agree with such folks, but insist that a fictional council of people who do believe Mary was a whore and Christ is in Hell are the ones who the Holy Spirit leads to knowing what should be considered the inspired Word of God. In fact, they know better what should be in the OT canon than Christ, the Apostles, and all Christians prior to your favorite Protestant revolutionary came along. That's what your argument boils down to.
So, you insist such folks are the proper authority in spiritual matters properly discerning the Truth because the Holy Spirit that governs Sola Yourselfa tells you those folks were correct and therefore the Holy Spirit must be guiding those folks as well. They know what is the inspired Word of God except when they don't know what's the inspired Word of God? They know the proper interpretation of Scripture except when they don't? And who is the judge? Why, the Self and Self Alone; the real basis for Protestantism and all that grew out of it.
Yeah, don't believe in anything that isn't convenient at the moment is the real bottom line for Sola Yourselfa folks and it's getting more clear that's the case with each attempt at changing the subject.
People who do not believe the Holy Spirit could protect the Holy Word of God from the inclusion of error don't believe in the Holy Spirit as anything other than a convenient excuse.
Either the Holy Spirit was right for the first seventeen hundred or so years that the Old Testament included books Protestants threw out or the Holy Spirit isn't an all powerful part of the Holy Trinity. Period.
People who toss out part of the Bible are tossing out the Trinity right along with the portions of Scripture they shed whether the strong delusion they're under lets them realize it or not. No wonder it's so easy for people like Rick Warren and Glen Beck to slide toward Chrislam. They've thrown out part of Scripture and/or added to Scripture to suit their personal delusion which means they've already denied the Holy Trinity just like a good Muzzie does.
Throw out Scripture to begin with and it's all downhill from there as the history of Protestantism clearly proves.
have a nice day
“Don’t agree with such folks, but insist that a fictional council of people who do believe Mary was a whore and Christ is in Hell are the ones who the Holy Spirit leads to knowing what should be considered the inspired Word of God.”
No, I do not. I don’t even know who these people you refer to are. If they are fictional, are you making them up yourself, or are you identifying actual people and calling them fictional. You’ve lost me. Please clarify. Also please identify your characters, real or fictional. Also please identify where I have either known or supported these real or fictional characters. If you can do so, it will simplify our interaction. If you cannot, you are repeating the unknowable for some reason.
“In fact, they know better what should be in the OT canon than Christ, the Apostles, and all Christians prior to your favorite Protestant revolutionary came along. That’s what your argument boils down to.”
I do not know who “they” are as I mentioned above.
Christ (in His earthly ministry) nor the Apostles identified the canon of Scripture.
I have no favorite “Protestant revolutionary. Nor a favorite group of revolutionaries.
Ergo, it is not my argument, but one you appear to be trying to foist upon me.
“So, you insist such folks”
No, I’ve neither referred to nor identified “such folks” as ones I agree with, let alone “insist.”
“are the proper authority in spiritual matters properly discerning the Truth because the Holy Spirit that governs Sola Yourselfa tells you those folks were correct and therefore the Holy Spirit must be guiding those folks as well.”
This is some kind of alternative universe or reality you are putting forth. I’ve never argued such. Don’t know where you got this idea. Please point to something grounded in reality, or there is nothing to discuss. So far, you have discussed nothing.
“They know what is the inspired Word of God except when they don’t know what’s the inspired Word of God?”
“they” again, whoever “they” are.
“They know the proper interpretation of Scripture except when they don’t?”
“they?”
“And who is the judge?”
At least your post hits on a question that is important.
“Why, the Self and Self Alone; the real basis for Protestantism and all that grew out of it.”
Apparently, you are advocating a binary view of either the pope or millions. This is not my world nor my argument.
“Yeah, don’t believe in anything that isn’t convenient at the moment is the real bottom line for Sola Yourselfa folks and it’s getting more clear that’s the case with each attempt at changing the subject.”
You will have to take it up with them. I’ve not changed the subject once in my interaction with you. In your post however, you’ve veered from the topic of the thread, to an imaginary group of people, the pope, protestant revolutionaries, etc.
“People who do not believe the Holy Spirit could protect the Holy Word of God from the inclusion of error don’t believe in the Holy Spirit as anything other than a convenient excuse.”
I believe He did protect the Word from the inclusion of error. It took time. He protected Israel. That didn’t mean there weren’t times they went into captivity.
“Either the Holy Spirit was right for the first seventeen hundred or so years that the Old Testament included books Protestants threw out or the Holy Spirit isn’t an all powerful part of the Holy Trinity. Period.”
I find this argument to lack most qualities that make a tight argument. I can tell you are convinced.
“People who toss out part of the Bible are tossing out the Trinity right along with the portions of Scripture they shed whether the strong delusion they’re under lets them realize it or not.”
I don’t believe a part of the Bible was tossed out.
“No wonder it’s so easy for people like Rick Warren and Glen Beck to slide toward Chrislam. They’ve thrown out part of Scripture and/or added to Scripture to suit their personal delusion which means they’ve already denied the Holy Trinity just like a good Muzzie does.”
You will have to take this up with them.
“Throw out Scripture to begin with and it’s all downhill from there as the history of Protestantism clearly proves.”
I do not believe this happened, but I see your post is quite stuck upon it.
“have a nice day “
To you too.