Posted on 09/27/2014 7:16:39 AM PDT by NKP_Vet
Yeah, go after divorced Catholics, but continue serving communion to abortion loving pols and convicted pedophile priests.
One does have to wonder why Martin Omally and Nancy Pelosi are given communio while some poor guy who married a whore or some poor woman who married an abuser are denied.
Why is it that all we hear are others saying what Francis supposedly has said. Why isn’t Francis coming out and saying it explicitly for himself?
IB4TPWMA
I wonder about the context of the remark. Our Lord in some of his comments on divorce and remarriage made an exception for unchastity, which you Latins have ignored in your canon law, and which we Orthodox have instantiated in ecclesiastical divorces in which the innocent party can be given permission to remarry — not just in cases of the divorce of an adulterous spouse by the aggrieved innocent spouse, but for divorces of a husband by a wife whom he has tried to force into prostitution (a slightly different application of the for porneia exception).
Jesus’s comments also call only the party initiating the divorce and remarrying an adulterer (with the exception for porneia), but say nothing about a chaste spouse unjustly divorced being an adulterer should she (under Jewish law it would have been she) or he remarry. There is room for modification of your rigorist stand without violating the plain meaning of Our Lord’s injunctions on the matter, and without opening the floodgates to imitating the anything goes attitude of secular Western society. (Just as there is room for us Orthodox to tighten up our application of economia, often applied a bit too freely IMHO, to these matters.)
We'll gladly help seek and save the ungodly.
"You see, at just the right time, when we were still powerless, Christ died for the ungodly." Romans 5:6
Will we accept the ungodly? Every day of the week - just like Christ does.
The exceptions Jesus referred to are a grounds for annulment. The word He used related to those who have strong blood ties.
Bad headline. How can he?
**Bishop Demetrio Fernandez of Cordoba, Spain said that during his ad limina visit to the Vatican earlier this year, the Holy Father told him that the Pope cannot change what Jesus Christ has instituted. **
Praying this is true.
Divorced Catholics can always receive Communion UNLESS they remarry.......then they are complicit the sin of adultery.
**while some poor guy who married a whore or some poor woman who married an abuser are denied.**
Not true UNLESS they remarry.
Jesuss comments also call only the party initiating the divorce and remarrying an adulterer (with the exception for porneia), but say nothing about a chaste spouse unjustly divorced being an adulterer should she (under Jewish law it would have been she) or he remarry.
Not quite so simple. If anyone should marry a divorced women he also commits adultery.
There is room for modification of your rigorist stand without violating the plain meaning of Our Lords injunctions on the matter
I would ask you to take a look at Paul:
To the married, however, I give this instruction (not I, but the Lord): A wife should not separate from her husband and if she does separate she must either remain single or become reconciled to her husband and a husband should not divorce his wife. (1 Cor. 7:10-11)I am sorry, but because of human weakness the Orthodox have strayed from the clear and binding instruction of Jesus Christ.
Just to be clear, someone in the state of serious sin should not approach the Eucharist. And a lot of Catholics are upset that people like Pelosi are not denied communion, according to the clear teaching in canon law that persons guilty of “manifest public sin” should not be communicated. However, one wrong doesn’t justify another.
Accept the ungodly all you want, but divorce and remarriage is still adultery. The Gospels make that perfectly clear.
Not guilt of adultery if they are chaste.
They are causing their former wife or husband to be adulterous.
Plus they are being adulterous — they are already married to wife or husband 1.
Solutions: Work on your first marriage.
Pursue and annulment.
Christ believed in baptism. I know many evangelicals that think as long as you profess you’re “born again” water baptism is not necessary. Anyone with an elementary understanding of Christianity knows that baptism is necessary for salvation. Or was Jesus lying?
I don’t understand how your comments follow from mine but my wife (who was previously married and divorced to escape with her life - only slight exaggeration) and I are chaste and not adulterous. I was not previously married.
Oops,
Pursue an annulment.
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