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To: DaveyB
I am going to presume that if you’re following Scriptural principles, it’s the MAN’S responsibility to make sure the marriage is working.

It's still his responsibility as the head of the marriage, whether you like it or not.

The outcome of the woman's response is not always guaranteed, but he is still responsible to try and work at the relationship himself, and he is accountable before God as the man, just as Adam was in the garden.

Their eyes weren't opened until after HE ate. Sin entered the world through Adam.

Too bad, but foisting the responsibility off on the wife, the woman who is the weaker vessel, is blame-shifting and an indication of issues in the man's heart and mind.

63 posted on 09/25/2014 1:26:39 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: metmom; DaveyB

metmom,

You need to read Song of Solomon if you think the resposibility is only on the husband; or do you think Song of Solomon is only an allegory about God’s love of His children?

Your views about the sexual relationship within marriage do not appear to be very Biblical.


66 posted on 09/25/2014 1:51:42 PM PDT by SeaHawkFan
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To: metmom
Their eyes weren't opened until after HE ate. Sin entered the world through Adam.

Genesis 3:17 "Because you have heeded the voice of your wife,... "Cursed is the ground for your sake; In toil you shall eat of it All the days of your life.

Adam was the covenant head and because he did not rule his wife correctly but gave into her, tried to make her happy (maybe even for some smoking hot sex) sin entered the world. But your canard that because Adam was the covenant representative Eve is blameless is patently false. She was also cursed and part of that was that she would desire to rule over husband but he was given the authority. Now authority does not translate to culpability or would you blame Christ for the sins of the church? Her most often area of trying to rule her husband is in the bedroom, she reneges on her vows and then holds her husbands sexuality for ransom. Shew makes demands promising to bloom sexually if he will only... But she already made a vow to not defraud to have and hold and to submit to her husband: her body is not hers but it belongs to her husband, yet she uses it for leverage. Some husbands who do not wish to be eunuchs will let her have her frigid power-play and call her bluff. She wants no sex - fine he will find satisfaction elsewhere while still providing and protecting her. He is the head but can only act it if he does not acquiesce to her in her defrauding.

You see what you call blame shifting is what makes you the weaker vessel, because it really is blame avoidance. You avoid your own blame and then blame another, just like a liberal. Justifying the sin not the sinner by making the man the scapegoat for women. You blame the husband for the husband's sins and you also blame him for the wife's sins, you call him to be the head but in the same breath you cut off his authority at the knees.

71 posted on 09/25/2014 2:24:53 PM PDT by DaveyB ("When injustice becomes the law; rebellion becomes duty." - Thomas Jefferson)
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