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To: metmom
They’re yours, like it or not, and, like it or not, they are examples of the fruit of Catholicism.

No, they [Pelosi and her ilk] are not examples of the fruit of Catholicism, because they don't follow the faith. If someone went to an exercise club once in a while on Sundays, watched their TV, gabbed around, rode the stationary bike for a bit, would you say they were examples of the fruit of the club as they waddled out to their car?

Stop looking in mud puddles to battle a point!

http://www.vatican.va/archive/ENG0015/_INDEX.HTM
http://jenniferfulwiler.com/saints/
739 posted on 09/22/2014 7:08:58 AM PDT by mlizzy ("If people spent an hour a week in Eucharistic Adoration, abortion would be ended." --Mother Teresa)
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To: mlizzy

As long as the Catholic church gives them communion and Catholic funerals, it is accepting them as Catholics.

Anyone who disagrees with that is at odds with what the Catholic church practices the by its actions, condones.


742 posted on 09/22/2014 9:33:48 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: mlizzy; metmom
No, they [Pelosi and her ilk] are not examples of the fruit of Catholicism, because they don't follow the faith. If someone went to an exercise club once in a while on Sundays, watched their TV, gabbed around, rode the stationary bike for a bit, would you say they were examples of the fruit of the club as they waddled out to their car? Stop looking in mud puddles to battle a point!

Stop looking in magic mirrors to make undesired results go away!

How many times are we told in Scripture, "by their fruits shall you know them"? How many places are Christians admonished to be examples to each other and to the world of what being "in Christ" means and how a "bad" testimony can cause what one says to be disqualified? How many places are we taught to be IN the world but not OF the world?

IF Ms. Pelosi and her ilk are allowed - for all practical purposes - to continue to identify AS Roman Catholics and the hierarchy does nothing but wring it's hands instead of correcting, admonishing, rebuking and, ultimately, if necessary, withdrawing the hand of fellowship, then how can you expect your religious brand to show it is any different than any other religion that does likewise? Jesus said the world would know we are His followers by our love for one another and by the work of the Holy Spirit in our lives.

Metmom's point was that more than a few FRoman Catholics here, as well as online "apologetics" sites, trash ALL those they term Protestants based on the sins they accuse Martin Luther of committing. Luther NEVER did anything near what the list of notorious Popes did. He wasn't perfect - nobody but Jesus is - but he was a stellar example of Christianity to his world and, had he done anywhere near what the "bad" popes did, he would NOT have had the effect he did. He would have been rejected by everyone. That's why it smacks of hypocrisy to read Catholics trash all non-Catholic Christians because of what they think Luther did but they turn a blind eye to their own miserable examples.

750 posted on 09/22/2014 2:39:41 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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