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To: CynicalBear

“Nobody said they did.”

You posted it in response to my argument which relied on that very assertion. If you weren’t arguing against my argument, then what was the point of posting it?

“Also whether they acknowledge it or not they draw a breath by the grace of God.”

Yes, but we will get nowhere fast if we simply confuse verses about God the Father with the Holy Spirit in order to support an argument. God the Father is who causes rain to fall on believers and unbelievers. It is by the grace of God the Father that both believers and unbelievers draw breath. Assertions about God the Father, even valid ones based on Scripture, are not much help when we are talking about our relationship with the Holy Spirit, and if fact may muddy the waters and prevent a proper understanding, if they are misused.


301 posted on 09/18/2014 6:48:23 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Boogieman
Yes, but we will get nowhere fast if we simply confuse verses about God the Father with the Holy Spirit in order to support an argument. God the Father is who causes rain to fall on believers and unbelievers. It is by the grace of God the Father that both believers and unbelievers draw breath. Assertions about God the Father, even valid ones based on Scripture, are not much help when we are talking about our relationship with the Holy Spirit, and if fact may muddy the waters and prevent a proper understanding, if they are misused.

Then that begs the questions.

Do you believe that the Holy Spirit is God?

How else does the Father interact with man if not through the Holy Spirit?

307 posted on 09/18/2014 7:01:22 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: Boogieman

Is there one God or three? Does the Holy Spirit do things without the will of the Father? We don’t confuse when we say Holy Spirit. There is one God. It’s becoming very obvious to me that you indeed don’t avail yourself of or listen to the guidance of the Holy Spirit when trying to understand scripture.


311 posted on 09/18/2014 7:20:07 PM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decideIf I need to locate a verse, do I ask thed to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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