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To: She_is_my_ hero

>>>A person who says these things is going way out on a limb to suggest someone is denying Jesus and worse is having hatred for God’s family!<<<

To Say that at some point in time that Jesus is not God when he was born into this world, is to deny the fullness of his divinity and humanity as one person.

To do so because one believes that Mary is not the “Mother of God” when those words profess that God was born into his creation... To think this is some kind of problem is incomprehensible next to the reality of the crucifixion.

You claim to be anointed ones, but if Jesus is not fully God and fully man in your understanding, you do not believe in Him. Your faith is in vain, and your anointing a sham.


355 posted on 09/14/2014 8:28:26 PM PDT by Bayard
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To: Bayard

“To Say that at some point in time that Jesus is not God when he was born into this world, is to deny the fullness of his divinity and humanity as one person.

To do so because one believes that Mary is not the “Mother of God” when those words profess that God was born into his creation... To think this is some kind of problem is incomprehensible next to the reality of the crucifixion.

You claim to be anointed ones, but if Jesus is not fully God and fully man in your understanding, you do not believe in Him. Your faith is in vain, and your anointing a sham.”

Your doctrine is blinding you from the truth of Scripture and your reasoning is flawed to the point of becoming heretical. Born again believers in the Messiah believe He was fully God and fully Man. Jesus is the one who refers to His followers as anointed, not we ourselves. If you have a problem with those terms you want to take that up with the Author!


357 posted on 09/14/2014 8:39:01 PM PDT by She_is_my_ hero (The speediest of marine creatures)
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To: Bayard
The argument that *Mary is the mother of Jesus and Jesus is God therefore Mary is the mother of God*, leads to the following conclusions using the same (for lack of a better term) *logic*:

If Mary is the mother of God and the Father is God, then Mary is the mother of God the Father.

If Mary is the mother of God and the Holy Spirit is God, then Mary is the mother of God the Holy Spirit.

That puts Mary above the Godhead, makes Mary deity, makes her the mother of God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit, making them created, finite beings with beginning.

It totally messes up all kinds of theology.

Do Catholics EVER think through what they have been spoon fed for their entire lives, cause it sure doesn't look that way with the arguments they use.

I'll stick with agreeing with the Holy Spirit in what He inspired in Scripture: *Mary, the mother of Jesus*.

That way, I KNOW I can't be wrong.

The Holy Spirit is clear in Scripture in calling Mary *the mother of Jesus*.

John 2:1 On the third day there was a wedding at Cana in Galilee, and the mother of Jesus was there.

John 2:3 When the wine ran out, the mother of Jesus said to him, “They have no wine.”

Acts 1:14 All these with one accord were devoting themselves to prayer, together with the women and Mary the mother of Jesus, and his brothers.

434 posted on 09/15/2014 5:38:30 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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