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To: Rides_A_Red_Horse
Just post these words “I have salvation through Jesus and Mary is not necessary.” Then I’ll concede.

Ain't gonna happen. Mary is too tied into their salvation. Jesus wasn't and isn't enough.

Am I asking too much; would that compromise the object of your faith?

Yes and yes.

It's telling isn't it, their reaction to Mary?

If they focused as much as Jesus as they do on Mary, they'd turn the world on its ear.

I've challenged Catholics before to focus only on Jesus for one whole month, and to not pay any attention to Mary as all. Just make it about Jesus.

They get the heebie-jeebies. They just can't and won't do it.

That tells me right there that way too much attention and importance is given to Mary and that she, not Jesus, is central to their belief system.

They can carry on all they want about the *real presence* but that is all that you hear about Jesus. EVERYTHING else is focused on Mary.

Look at how much they talk about her, talk about *adoring*, *venerating*, *honoring* her and see how much they say that about Jesus. The only time they talk about Jesus and worshiping Him is when they claim He's in that wafer they eat.

Pray to Mary and other dead people. Eat Jesus.

Take Mary out of Catholicism and the church would collapse.

1,361 posted on 09/25/2014 12:19:18 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: metmom
You wrote "they'd turn the world on its ear.."

Imagine what might have happened if Billy Graham had led the Pope to a saving knowledge of Jesus Christ.

Likewise, imagine the Kingdom impact if any of these zealots had the power of the indwelling Holy Spirit to guide them to speak the Truth to an unsaved world!

1,369 posted on 09/25/2014 5:35:31 AM PDT by kinsman redeemer (The real enemy seeks to devour what is good.)
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To: metmom; Rides_A_Red_Horse
>>Take Mary out of Catholicism and the church would collapse.<<

That is a sad truth.

1,374 posted on 09/25/2014 6:03:40 AM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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