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To: mlizzy
>>Yes, I think he would; in fact, he'd love that, because it's all lies.<<

Wait......you don't know that the Catholic Church admits it includes pagan practices? I and others have posted many times those admitions. I'll save you from having to look it up.

The missionary history of the [Catholic] Church clearly shows her adaptability to all races, all continents, all nations. In her liturgy and her art, in her tradition and the forming of her doctrine, naturally enough she includes Jewish elements, but also elements that are of pagan origin. In certain respects, she has copied her organization from that of the Roman Empire, has preserved and made fruitful the philosophical intuitions of Socrates, Plato and Aristotle, borrowed from both Barbarians and the Byzantine Roman Empire—but always remains herself, thoroughly digesting all elements drawn from external sources...In her laws, her ceremonies, her festivals and her devotions, she makes use of local customs after purifying them and "baptizing" them. [Twentieth Century Encyclopedia of Catholicism]

That's just one of many statements where they admit inclusion of paganism.

1,237 posted on 09/24/2014 3:54:56 PM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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To: CynicalBear; Unam Sanctam; x_plus_one; Patton@Bastogne; Oldeconomybuyer; RightField; aposiopetic; ..

Easter is not a pagan holiday CB and you know it. It is not even CALLED Easter in most languages. Claiming that the use of pagan terms, words or even symbols make one a pagan is laughable - like most of the wack-a-doodle weirdness that spews so often by those who agree only that they think the Catholic Church is “pagan”. They cannot agree which version of the Bible is definitive, they cannot agree which sect, denomination or creed is correct, they argue about worship service - attend at all? Attend on Friday? Saturday? Sunday?

But the one thing the few but loud agree on is that to be Catholic is to be NOT a “Christian” and to be Catholic IS to be “pagan”.

But if the use of pagan words is the issue, then why have a month of “January” named after Janus? Or a day called Thursday honoring Thor?

No, your claims are laughable and sad. And held be just a very tint fragment of the real world. Thank God!


1,239 posted on 09/24/2014 4:05:59 PM PDT by narses ( For the Son of man shall come ... and then will he render to every man according to his works.)
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To: CynicalBear; narses

Are you saying that Socrates, Plato, and Aristotle wrote nothing that was true, or of interest, and therefore we should keep our distance from them and not read them?

What matters is whether what they have to say is true or false.

No one is saying that everything the Greek philosophers said must be accepted. But they said much that was true, and has been exceedingly fruitful to Western civilization over the centuries.

The Catholic Church believes in a rational God—unlike the Muslims, whose Allah is totally arbitrary and unpredictable.


1,246 posted on 09/24/2014 4:30:09 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: CynicalBear
That's just one of many statements where they admit inclusion of paganism.

What? You don't believe in sanctification? You don't believe Jesus when he said He makes all things new? Is a protestant the same person when they accept Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior? Or perhaps they are a changed person?

1,260 posted on 09/24/2014 5:09:27 PM PDT by JPX2011
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