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To: metmom; CynicalBear
That is patent nonsense. OF course that prayer is asking Mary for things. There is nowhere in that prayer the CB posted where the person is asking Mary to intercede for them.

Sorry, my error. I was referring to the rosary, not the prayers CB put up. And yes, some Catholics will say, "I'll say a prayer to Mary for you," instead of "I'll say a rosary to ask intercession of Mary for you." It's shorthand! Catholics don't need to walk on eggshells with other Catholics. We all know what is meant. As far as CB's prayers go (first of all a cult has several meanings; look it up), but here is some information regarding Mary's desire for us to consecrate ourselves to her Immaculate Heart:
At Fatima Our Lady asked for consecration to her Immaculate Heart, a consecration which, among other things, calls for the devotion of the Five First Saturdays, which includes the Rosary, meditation and Communions of reparation - all done in reparation to her Immaculate Heart. It involves a striving to fulfill her requests for prayer and sacrifices for the conversion of sinners and in reparation for offenses against the Divine Majesty. In a word, it involves a striving to fulfill all that she asked for at Fatima, and trying to bring others to heed her requests.

Living that consecration means becoming an apostle of Mary, striving to imitate her virtues, and to place in her hands the flowers of little sacrifices of reparation for the salvation of souls, so that we might strengthen her hand against the attacks of the Evil One, and hasten the day of the triumph of her Immaculate Heart. To everyone who makes that consecration and sincerely tries to live it, the words of Our Lady to the child Lucia at Fatima would also apply: "I will never leave you; my Immaculate Heart will be your refuge, and the way that will lead you to God."

If consecration to Mary "tends essentially to union with Jesus, under the guidance of Mary," as Pope Pius XII pointed out, we must remember that any gradual transformation into Christ requires a gradual loving acceptance of a greater share in His redeeming Cross.

So when we offer ourselves to Mary to lead us, to form us into the likeness of her Son, we are offering to let her lead us along the way of the Cross. http://www.rosary-center.org/consecrt.htm
Emphasis; mine
1,205 posted on 09/24/2014 9:01:41 AM PDT by mlizzy ("If people spent an hour a week in Eucharistic Adoration, abortion would be ended." --Mother Teresa)
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To: mlizzy; metmom
Catholics say Mary is their refuge

"I will never leave you; my Immaculate Heart will be your refuge, and the way that will lead you to God."

But scripture says.

Psalm 46:1 God is our refuge and strength, a very present help in trouble.

1,211 posted on 09/24/2014 9:20:51 AM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decideIf I need to locate a verse, do I ask thed to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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