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Pope Francis, "If Mary is not your Mother, you are an orphan!"
Charisma News ^ | 9/5/2014 | Jennifer LeClaire

Posted on 09/11/2014 11:19:06 AM PDT by Jan_Sobieski

Pope Francis has been a breath of fresh air for many Catholics seeking greater liberty and a growing concern for conservative Christians who take issue with his comments about homosexuality and other cultural issues.

But the pontiff's latest statement is sparking an uproar from believers around the world. Pope Francis sent a tweet Tuesday that absolutely violates the truth of Scripture:

"The Christian who does not feel that the Virgin Mary is his or her mother is an orphan," Pope Francis tweeted.

As of the time I wrote this column it had been retweeted about 4,000 times and many of the responses were in appropriately unkind. It's not appropriate to attack the pope for his beliefs. It's more appropriate to share the truth...


TOPICS: Apologetics; Ecumenism; Religion & Culture; Theology
KEYWORDS: bible; bigotry; catholic; mary; pope; popefrancis
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To: metmom

I was about to post the same. It’s “dark” and to me, depraved.


1,461 posted on 09/25/2014 5:54:37 PM PDT by bonfire
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To: JPX2011

Yeah, none of that immortal soul or eternal life stuff please; that would actually be Christian. The dead are dead ya know


1,462 posted on 09/25/2014 5:55:48 PM PDT by Hegewisch Dupa
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To: Hegewisch Dupa; MamaB

Did you forget to ping someone?


1,463 posted on 09/25/2014 5:57:57 PM PDT by Rides_A_Red_Horse (Why do you need a fire extinguisher when you can call the fire department?)
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To: JPX2011

You guys are really committed to your goddess.


1,464 posted on 09/25/2014 5:58:27 PM PDT by Rides_A_Red_Horse (Why do you need a fire extinguisher when you can call the fire department?)
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To: JPX2011; Rides_A_Red_Horse
Sure He did. God does not force Himself onto us.

God has told a lot of people who didn't want to do the job He sent the on how it was going to be.

The easiest example to use is Moses.

Read Exodus 4 sometime.

On the contrary, the only ones I have every heard of it from are Catholics.

I NEVER heard a single protestant ever equate it to a *divine rape*.

Exodus 4:13 (Moses to God) Please send someone else!!!

God didn't take it from him.

If you knew Scripture well, you'd be able to think of plenty of other examples, too.

So yes, God DOES force Himself on us. It's His prerogative. He's the creator. We're the created.

And in that role she continues to serve her Son. Nobody has ever said she is equal or that she possesses divine powers. She possesses what God gave her, just as God bestows upon us certain charisms.

Sure Catholics do. Just like you did in your previous paragraph when you called her *co-redemptrix*.

1,465 posted on 09/25/2014 6:00:21 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: metmom; JPX2011

Sure Catholics do. Just like you did in your previous paragraph when you called her *co-redemptrix*.


They won’t come right out and say it but they do not find Jesus sufficient for salvation. If they did they wouldn’t “require” a “co-redemptrix.”


1,466 posted on 09/25/2014 6:03:35 PM PDT by Rides_A_Red_Horse (Why do you need a fire extinguisher when you can call the fire department?)
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To: CynicalBear; metmom
Jesus said, "You shall worship the Lord your God and him only shall you serve." (Matt. 4:10)

So Samuel said to all the Israelites, "If you are returning to the LORD with all your hearts, then rid yourselves of the foreign gods and the Ashtoreths and commit yourselves to the LORD and serve him only, and he will deliver you out of the hand of the Philistines." (I Samuel 7:3)

Then you will desecrate your idols overlaid with silver and your images covered with gold; you will throw them away like a menstrual cloth and say to them, "Away with you!" (Isaiah 30:22)

1,467 posted on 09/25/2014 6:04:45 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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To: JPX2011; Rides_A_Red_Horse
Last post for messed up somehow. Try again......

God does not force Himself onto us.

God has told a lot of people who didn't want to do the job He sent the on how it was going to be.

The easiest example to use is Moses.

Read Exodus 4 sometime.

On the contrary, the only ones I have every heard of it from are Catholics.

Exodus 4:13 (Moses to God) Please send someone else!!!

God didn't take it from him.

If you knew Scripture well, you'd be able to think of plenty of other examples, too. Saul, Gideon, Jonah, Jeremiah,.......

So yes, God DOES force Himself on us. It's His prerogative. He's the creator. We're the created.

I know protestants, in their vulgarity, like to characterize the Incarnation as some sort of divine rape but it didn't happen that way.

I NEVER EVER heard a single protestant ever equate it to a *divine rape*. The only ones I have ever heard refer to it that way are the Catholics.

But considering the messed up views they have on sex, sexuality, marriage, virginity, etc, it's no surprise that they'd think that way.

Projection is an interesting phenomena. It reveals a lot about a person when they presume that others think like themselves.

And in that role (co-redemptrix) she continues to serve her Son. Nobody has ever said she is equal or that she possesses divine powers. She possesses what God gave her, just as God bestows upon us certain charisms.

Sure Catholics do. Just like you did in your previous paragraph when you called her *co-redemptrix*.

She did NOT bring forth redemption.

ANY Jewish virgin with the right lineage living in her circumstances could have fulfilled that prophecy.

1,468 posted on 09/25/2014 6:09:32 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: boatbums; metmom; Rides_A_Red_Horse; MamaB; caww
Catholics will one day realize that those embellished statues and bejeweled skeletal parts are indeed idols. I fear that for many of them it will be too late.
1,469 posted on 09/25/2014 6:25:31 PM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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To: CynicalBear; boatbums; metmom; MamaB; caww; JPX2011; narses; mlizzy

Catholics will one day realize that those embellished statues and bejeweled skeletal parts are indeed idols. I fear that for many of them it will be too late.


I often wondered if they wipe off the statue/skull/femur/dessicated hand/etc between worshippers.

I mean the only thing worse than sticking your lips on a corpses would be sticking your lips on a corpse that’s slick with someone elses drool.


1,470 posted on 09/25/2014 6:30:37 PM PDT by Rides_A_Red_Horse (Why do you need a fire extinguisher when you can call the fire department?)
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To: Rides_A_Red_Horse; FourtySeven; metmom; MamaB; boatbums; dsc; mlizzy; Alex Murphy
>>I don't care who you are; that's just nasty!<<

It all looks more like part of a Bablonian occult than anything else.

1,471 posted on 09/25/2014 6:33:02 PM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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To: CynicalBear
It all looks more like part of a Bablonian occult than anything else.


The silence of the Catholic response is rather deafening!

1,472 posted on 09/25/2014 6:36:27 PM PDT by Rides_A_Red_Horse (Why do you need a fire extinguisher when you can call the fire department?)
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To: Rides_A_Red_Horse

That is gross. Yuck!


1,473 posted on 09/25/2014 6:37:41 PM PDT by MamaB
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To: Rides_A_Red_Horse

Where did they go? Interesting.


1,474 posted on 09/25/2014 6:39:53 PM PDT by MamaB
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To: MamaB

Where did they go? Interesting.


Darkness flees from light.


1,475 posted on 09/25/2014 6:40:31 PM PDT by Rides_A_Red_Horse (Why do you need a fire extinguisher when you can call the fire department?)
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To: Rides_A_Red_Horse

Yep. Bless their little hearts.


1,476 posted on 09/25/2014 6:41:38 PM PDT by MamaB
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To: Rides_A_Red_Horse

Hello.
I bought my first Bible a few days after I was saved.
It was a great experience. The lady who operated the little book store prayed with me because she understood the journey that I had just begun.
It was exciting to see what being part of God’s family meant - both to me and to my new brothers and sisters in Christ.
God is Good...
All the Time.


1,477 posted on 09/25/2014 6:45:26 PM PDT by kinsman redeemer (The real enemy seeks to devour what is good.)
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To: CynicalBear; metmom; boatbums; Iscool
Their idolaty has no boundaries though they profess otherwise....Priest kneeling and praying before a pope's HAT!.....the idolatry of the Roman Catholics comes to us without limits.


1,478 posted on 09/25/2014 6:48:46 PM PDT by caww
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To: Rides_A_Red_Horse

Interesting.


1,479 posted on 09/25/2014 6:49:31 PM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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To: kinsman redeemer

Awesome! We are truly blessed to be a family in Jesus Christ!


1,480 posted on 09/25/2014 6:51:29 PM PDT by Rides_A_Red_Horse (Why do you need a fire extinguisher when you can call the fire department?)
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