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To: Pelham
As I understand it, most American Catholics (though certainly not all) sympathized with the South--ironic considering the Catholic Church's identification with anti-Southern liberal Northern urban areas.

There are still a few Catholics (not many, since the Catholic establishment isn't fond of Southerners) who thump this "Catholicism is the Southern religion!" line because the slave states were feudal and semi-aristocratic and because Pius IX supported them. Of course, let those same Southerners being courted insist on remaining true to the historical truth of all of Genesis and their Catholic "friends" very soon turn on them with the same anti-Southern slurs the Northern liberals use.

14 posted on 09/09/2014 1:39:54 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Throne and Altar! [In Jerusalem!!!])
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To: Zionist Conspirator

I never heard that Catholics sympathized with the south. Never in all my born years if you’re talking about the Civil War era. Perhaps you’re mistaking the Copperheads of NYC for some Catholic cabal.

I happen to like and enjoy the south and it’s history but it most certainly is not a Catholic thing. Now we’re blaming Catholics for slavery? Blacks blame Jews, Protestants blame Catholics...sheesh, it never ends.


15 posted on 09/09/2014 2:03:25 PM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard III: Loyalty Binds Me)
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To: Zionist Conspirator
"the Catholic establishment isn't fond of Southerners"

This doesn't pass the "name one" test.

18 posted on 09/09/2014 2:42:00 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (So to speak!)
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To: Zionist Conspirator
What a steaming load. I've never read or heard of any consensus among Catholics regarding sympathy with the south. The Catholic establishment holds no particular opinion regarding Southerners, Northerners, Westerners, truck drivers, or people who prefer sugar over cream. Very few Catholics, and very few people in general, know that Pius IX was supportive of the South. Name one person who says Catholicism is a Southern religion.

You differentiate between Catholics and Southerners, as if they are two disparate groups, and you appear to claim Catholics prefer feudal slave states.

Yours is a comment long on bias and short on basis.

36 posted on 09/09/2014 4:48:48 PM PDT by Wyrd bið ful aræd (Asperges me, Domine, hyssopo et mundabor, Lavabis me, et super nivem dealbabor.)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

“As I understand it, most American Catholics (though certainly not all) sympathized with the South-”

Not really. At the time of the Civil War the bulk of Catholics were in the North as a result of the Irish Potato Famine. The article points out that they wanted to be good members of their new home and supported the Union.

There were some old Catholic families in the South, in New Orleans, Charleston, Richmond, and Baltimore among other places. The Catholic church was somewhat ambivalent about the War.

“There are still a few Catholics (not many, since the Catholic establishment isn’t fond of Southerners)”

I have any number of Catholic cousins in Louisiana. As far as I know they like Southerners just fine.


44 posted on 09/09/2014 5:25:21 PM PDT by Pelham (California, what happens when you won't deport illegals)
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