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To: RitaOK

If you believe in the Holy Catholic Church as the Nicene/Apostles Creed prescribes, and that you recite in ALL FORMS of the mass every time it is said, then you can’t licitly claim ‘vandalism’ of the mass. The Church hierarchy changed it!
You MAY be able to claim that some priests took too liberal an interpretation/implementation of the promulgation of the Mass of Paul VI, BUT such an accusation IS NOT universal.
I PERSONALLY was catechized in the 1960’s and 70’s. A disservice was done to us to be certain, but it is nothing that can’t be overcome INDIVIDUALLY if one has the motivation to do it. So far it has worked for me and mine. I credit local Catholic Radio, EWTN and Lighthouse Catholic Media for our continued and ongoing conversion. Thanks and Peace to you...


27 posted on 09/03/2014 11:00:55 AM PDT by OriginalChristian (The end of America, as founded, began when the first Career Politician was elected...)
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To: OriginalChristian

Of course you mean well, but in the face of the word, “licit”, now plainly being quite broadly compromised by so many words and actions, I do take some degree of conscientious objection to my complaint that 40 years in the desert for the TLM has proven to be a grave loss to the Church.

Impiety is not “licit”. Abuses to the little precision of V2 are not “licit”. And, the multitude of ambiguities that comprise V2 having been turned into license in many cases, is not “licit”.

As you surely know, it was the Traditional Latin Mass which served, for centuries, the far better days of the Holy Catholic Church in matters of piety, devotion, religious vocations and practices of reverence.

My point is that the Traditional Latin Mass was never meant to become as a book burning, banished, or dissolved into nothing but to distant memory, nor so removed as to be entirely inaccessible.

I believe a price has been paid for V2 in vocations. And, rendering of the TLM to “extraordinary” has neither enriched nor enlightened the Church. I believe I see the fruit of V2, needlessly resulting in diminishment and truncation of the Holy Mass.

It may be licit, by hierarchical privilege, but the fruit, 40+ years later, is known to be sparse in the West.

We use to be clearly counter cultural, a peculiar people. Now, not so much. Befall piety and net a sitting cardinal as grand marshall in a gay parade. Very tragic.


38 posted on 09/03/2014 12:42:32 PM PDT by RitaOK ( VIVA CRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming.)
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