**I read it. Noah needed to do something to save his family from destruction. But Noah was ALREADY RIGHT WITH GOD. hE WAS ALREADY JUSTIFIED IN THE EYES OF GOD! “Noah was a righteous man, blameless in his generation. Noah walked with God.”**
In what ways do think that Noah was found ‘right with God’. Do you think he skipped out on the animal sacrifices God had ordained after he clothed Adam and Eve?
Like Abel before him, I’m sure he was offering sacrifices unto God. He was doing something (gasp!), and probably many things, to be found faithful to God.
**The Flood separated Noah from the evil around him,**
God buried the sin of that present world in a watery grave. Was evil removed from around Noah? NOT FOR LONG!!.....
“And Ham, the father of Canaan saw the nakedness of his father, and told his two brethern without......And Noah awoke from his wine, and knew what his younger son had done unto him. And he said, cursed be Canaan; a servant of servants shall he be unto his brethern.” Gen. 9:22,24,25
Noah lived after the flood 350 years, and no doubt saw plenty of evil spring up during that time. Noah was still alive when Abram was born.
**and baptism with water corresponds to that. Deal with it!**
Your interpretations again. Deal with this, this time, since you have so far chosen not to:
Moses was the voice of God to the Israelites. Ex. 4:12,15.
They “were under the cloud, and passed through the sea. And were all baptized unto Moses in the cloud and in the sea”. 1Cor. 10:1,2
That’s when “Moses said unto the people, Fear ye not, stand still and SEE the SALVATION of the Lord, which he will SHEW to you TO DAY: for the Egyptians whom ye have seen TO DAY, ye shall see them again no more for ever.” Ex. 14:13
You will say they were saved without works before the Red Sea, overlooking that they offered animal sacrifices unto God, in order to survive the ‘destroyer’. They then arrive at the Red Sea where God shows them final and complete deliverance (”the salvation of the Lord”).
At the Red Sea, we see the water (death and burial) and the cloud (Spirit).
At creation, we see the water (lifeless, and therefore dead)and the Spirit.
There was death and burial in the Flood. THEN “God made a wind to pass over the earth, and the waters were asswaged..”. (Gen, 8:1). Then, new life came forth.
Which reminds me of the ‘rushing mighty wind’ of Pentecost.
Which reminds me of “The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the SOUND thereof, but canst NOT TELL whence it cometh or whither it goeth: so is EVERY ONE that is born of the Spirit.” Jn 3:8
**It is very simple. It is very obvious. But I don’t have a crayon large enough to draw the picture for you**
Philip draws you a BIG picture, (but you will probably dodge it with more man-made tradition):
“But when they believed Philip preaching the things concerning the kingdom of God, and the name of Jesus Christ, they were baptized, both men and women. Then Simon himself was baptized also....Now when the apostles...heard...they sent unto them Peter and John. Who, when they were come down, prayed for them, that they might receive the Holy Ghost: (For AS YET, he was fallen on NONE OF THEM. ONLY they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.) Then laid they their hands on them, and they received the Holy Ghost.” Acts 8:12-17
That ‘corresponds’ (agrees) with the conversion of the certain disciples in Ephesus, Where they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus. BUT, the Holy Ghost did NOT come on them until Paul laid his hands on them.
**Water baptism does not place us in Christ Jesus. The Spirit does that. Period.**
So, you plan on showing up at the wedding feast without a wedding garment?
**It is simple. Paul uses baptism as a type - an image to explain things.**
Where’s that YOPIOS dude?
The Spirit is life, NOT death and burial: Paul taught THIS:
“Know ye not, that as many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his DEATH? Therefore we are BURIED with him INTO DEATH..”
Now the ‘life’ part: “..that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the GLORY of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life”. Rms 6:3,4
**“For in one Spirit we were all baptized into one body—Jews or Greeks, slaves or free—and all were made to drink of one Spirit.”**
I believe that. “If any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his”. But, you are using 1Cor. 12:13 to bypass being ‘buried with him in baptism’ (death and buriel). The context of that verse, shows Paul teaching that there is one Spirit that does a multiude of things for a diverse membership.
**This is not open to debate.**
Are you one of those climate change types that believes the debate is no longer open there as well?
How is one united with Christ?
“For in one Spirit we were all baptized into one body—Jews or Greeks, slaves or free—and all were made to drink of one Spirit.”
If you are in Christ, you have died with Him and been raised with Him:
“But because of his great love for us, God, who is rich in mercy, 5 made us alive with Christ even when we were dead in transgressions—it is by grace you have been saved. 6 And God raised us up with Christ and seated us with him in the heavenly realms in Christ Jesus, 7 in order that in the coming ages he might show the incomparable riches of his grace, expressed in his kindness to us in Christ Jesus. 8 For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God— 9 not by works, so that no one can boast. 10 For we are God’s handiwork, created in Christ Jesus to do good works, which God prepared in advance for us to do.”
Water baptism is a type. It doesn’t place us in Christ - the Spirit does that! In Christ we have forgiveness and new life.
Water baptism has value, but not in justifying us or giving us life. The function of water baptism is clear in scripture - to save us out of the world. That is value enough. One need not pretend it unites us with Christ in direct contradiction to scripture, nor does one need to pretend it causes forgiveness of sin.