**So what did the Flood do? Hmmmm? In what sense did the Flood ‘save’ Noah? Well, it separated him from the evil generation he was in - which is what water baptism does for us.**
Did you even read this?
“By faith Noah, being warned of God of things not seen as yet, moved with fear, PREPARED an ark to the SAVING of his house.....”. Heb. 11:7
Noah was WARNED (grace) of God. He HAD to DO something to be saved. The warning, and instructions for escaping God’s wrath were to be followed..to the letter.
You seem to believe in predestination. Are you predestined to not be buried with Him in likeness of his death?
Did you even read this?
“By faith Noah, being warned of God of things not seen as yet, moved with fear, PREPARED an ark to the SAVING of his house.....”. Heb. 11:7
Noah was WARNED (grace) of God. He HAD to DO something to be saved.
I read it. Noah needed to do something to save his family from destruction. But Noah was ALREADY RIGHT WITH GOD. hE WAS ALREADY JUSTIFIED IN THE EYES OF GOD!
“Noah was a righteous man, blameless in his generation. Noah walked with God.”
The Flood separated Noah from the evil around him, and baptism with water corresponds to that. Deal with it!
“And go into long interpretations of baptism, and STILL you won’t address ‘being buried with him’.”
I have not gone into long explanations. They are not needed. It is simple. Paul uses baptism as a type - an image to explain things. It is union with Christ that saves us, and we KNOW, WITHOUT QUESTION, what that union involves:
“For in one Spirit we were all baptized into one body—Jews or Greeks, slaves or free—and all were made to drink of one Spirit.”
It is very simple. It is very obvious. But I don’t have a crayon large enough to draw the picture for you, r do I see value in repeating the truth endlessly to someone who won’t listen.
There is no moment of burial. When Jesus baptizes us in the Holy Spirit - when He IMMERSES us in the Holy Spirit - we are united with Christ, part of His Body. We are then viewed as Christ Himself is viewed: “and raised us up with him and seated us with him in the heavenly places in Christ Jesus”. “For by one sacrifice he has made perfect forever those who are being made holy.”
Water baptism does not place us in Christ Jesus. The Spirit does that. Period. This is not open to debate. It is plainly taught.