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I do cling to genuine, not counterfeits. And it is weird to those who conform their mind around counterfeit false premises..

The circular reasoning that gets argued around here from mother and daughter is a work of that flesh.

Counterfeits are not genuine for one reason or another..

If your faith is in the church teachings that the greco roman latin Jesus was born on December 25, died on good friya day and was raised on easter sun’s day, none of those are biblical. They are popular. But not biblical.
Those are all traditions..

If you don’t worship on december 25 and easter than you are in the minority. Some go the other way and are angry Santa and the bunny have such a prominent role in those days- it offends them to their core. from your post, you dont seem to have those two days any holier than the others..

You and I would share that opinion, then, that those days are not holy. Maybe for different reasons..

When I saw acts 7:45 and hebrews 4:8 use the name ‘Joshua’ in some newer translations than what I had for those two Jesus verses in an older bible, it helped me find evidence that even the name Jesus is a greco roman latin tradition..

I don’t think its weird to test the spirits and prove all things.. it is better than trusting all spirits and accept that church leaders have proven all things for you..

The Messiah of Israel in scripture is not the greco roman latin savior of Christendom..
They have the same words (which would be a dead giveaway), deeds, and have a story that matches..

What differentiates them is one actually fulfills Torah by His very life events..
And the other has had counterfeit days added that look and feel like the original genuine days in scripture, but when the light of scripture is put to them, they are phony. (Lies, counterfeits, Pseudo)

If the name, birthday, death and resurrection story and the worship of those traditions that can be proven to be counterfeits of genuine, what is a believer to think?

You have no reason to doubt the faith you have in your church teachings and doctrines.
I can show you hundreds of denominations that think they cornered the market on true Truth..

It wasn’t until I came out of the world that I got to take a look at what then world really is- counterfeit..and it doesn’t end with governments or businesses or people lying to us.. the world of religion is just a part of the world as any of the other pieces..

The Messiah of Israel wasn’t born on December 25. He wasnt killed on good friya day.
He wasnt raised on easter sun’s day. Those Greco roman Latin days are reserved for the Greco roman Latin savior, Jesus.

The Messiah of Israel was born on the 1st day of His 6th month (revelation 12-) when the woman was clothed with the sun and the moon was under her feet.
(The sign is the sign of Virgo, the virgin, and that picture in the sky is of a New Moon Day for His sixth month-not the Gregorian 6th)

Christendom is silent on a couple of these, but His calendar and Torah are not-
The Messiah was circumcised on the 8th day of His 1st month(per Torah law) which on His calendar is a weekly Sabbath every month. (Ezekiel 46:1)

The Messiah was dedicated in the temple, 40 days after His mother Miriam’s purification (per Torah). That happens to be the 10th day of the 7th month in Torah - Yom Kippur, the Day of Atonement, a rather big Sabbath day in Torah.

The Messiah was baptized on His 30th birthday, the 1st day of His sixth month, a New Moon Day.
(Then immediately was led into the wilderness for 40 days and night- a picture of His mother Miriam’s purification that happened at His birth)

The Messiah was put to death on the 14th day His 1st month, the Feast of Passover (per Torah).
The Messiah rested in the tomb on the 15th day, a High Sabbath and the Feast of Unelavened Bread. (Per Torah)
The Messiah rose from the dead on the 16th day of the 1st month, the Feast of First Fruits. (Per Torah)

Now, be honest, does the church teach that or worship from there? They dont need to because they have substitutes for those (or just ignore them)

By the way, there were at least three different passover this year depending on the Jews and their timekeepings...
And none had the good Friya day, Saturn’s day and Sun’s day template which is what Christendom uses every year.

Resurrection day could have been a woden’s day, Thor’s day or Friya’s day on the pope gregory calendar this year depending on which Jews, did what..could that show the traditions in greco roman latin church is reserved for its Greco roman Latin savior alone? I could comment on sun worship here but I won’t.

Worship in christenom is founded on traditions, including the very day people worship each week in large numbers as its sabbath(sunday- because the calendar teaches us that is the first day on the pope Gregory calendar)

By observing His calendar and those who were given the written oracles along with an understanding Torah, one can show christendom as a religion based of traditions of a Greco roman Latin nature and not scripture.
The Messiah is clear about traditions or men that trump the commandments of YHWH.

I pray more believers have their eyes opened to what has been hidden under the cloak of ‘traditions’..

Those things people call Jewish are the very fulfillment of the Messiah’s life himself. What a blessing to be able to see His plan in totality. What a blessing to know why Israel was told to do what they were told to do..not because we have to do it.. but because we see how He fulfills it and can commemorate what He did... kind of like our man made anniversaries and holy days like labor day (the last man made holy day we’ve seen this year)..
(That was a work day on His calendar BTW)

Christendom sees Jesus in December 25 and easter, I see the Messiah of Israel in every New Moon, Sabbath and Feast..

And as far as I know, I am no Jew.. and those feasts seem legalistic and/or Jewish to gentiles.
But they really begin on a weekly Sabbath (something Jews do not do today, because they use the pope’s calendar instead).. and end on a Sabbath.. they are to work in between just like you and me for six days.
If you observe His calendar and His Sabbath from His calendar, you cannot help but observe His Feasts..(again, something Israel does not do today because they have a pope appointed sabbath that gets in the way)

So, what do believers cling to? I certainly do not cling to New Moonsl Sabbaths and feasts for salvation.
I cling to the belief in the Elohim of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob and the finished work of Yahshua, His only Beloved Son, the Messiah of Israel for salvation.

I see in those New Moons, Sabbaths and Feasts Him.. I see His coming kingdom.. I see His government. I see Torah and Torah that became flesh and dwelt among us..

Praise Yah I am not stuck with seeing santa and the easter bunny anymore..!

The greco roman latin traditions or Torah that became flesh and dwelt among us?

They are not the same.. and we can tell by who and how we worship.

Worship is a rather big theme in Scripture. And important in the last book in scripture for the end times.

counterfeits are not meant to be the same as the genuine.
They are meant to trick, deceive, fool.steal..

And isn’t that what scripture says satan does.. deceives the whole world..

If all this makes me weird, I will take it.

I don’t know anything of this by church. No denomination can stake claim..
All the glory goes to Him!

Ask, seek and knock and who knows what one will learn. (Or unlearn as in my case)

It may be too weird for some..

Truth is stranger than fiction..
At least to those who stick to fiction..

I no longer like the fiction.

But to each their own on this journey..
We need not please man, but Him..
And His Truth wins..

HalleluYah!