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To: BlackElk

As a conscientious parent, I consider the diocesan priest who recently yammered on about “sexual orientation” and his “personal struggles with celibacy” (which he implied that he lost) during his sermon a far more negative influence than Bishop Fellay. And JPII was far from conservative, as Assisi demonstrated. Those who are fortunate enough to have the opportunity to attend FSSP or diocesan TLM’s have Archbishop Lefebvre and Pope Bendict to thank for it.


149 posted on 09/02/2014 6:14:28 PM PDT by BlatherNaut
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To: BlatherNaut

No one says that you should expose children to such a priest. OTOH, Jesus Christ chose Twelve, including Judas. If your standard is perfection, what Church other than Catholicism do you prefer? No one is stopping you!


152 posted on 09/02/2014 6:28:18 PM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club: Roast 'em Danno!)
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To: BlatherNaut
Oh, how did I miss the last sentence of SSPX agitprop? We owe the Tridentine Mass to dead excommunicated Marcel and Pope Benedict? I was married at a Tridentine wedding Mass in Connecticut nearly 20 years before Pope Benedict was elected. Weekly approved Tridentine Masses had been said for some time before that at New Haven. Pope Benedict was elected about 14 years after Marcel moved off this mortal coil.

I can absolutely assure you that the Tridentine wedding Mass had nothing whatever to do with the unlamented Marcel or his pretensions of grandeur. It took place in the Hartford Archdiocese through the personal intervention of Archbishop John Whealon because he TRUSTED the motives of the couple and the priest and others associated with the request NOT to be reflective of the rebellious nonsense of Marcel. Archbishop Whealon figuratively boxed the ears of archdiocesan officials who had dug in their heels in resistance to a Tridentine wedding.

Saint John Paul II in Quattuor Abhinc Annos (1984) and Ecclesia Dei (1988) bears the responsibility for and honor of granting the permission to resume Tridentine Masses. Then Joseph Cardinal Ratzinger, the future Pope Benedict XVI, is at his side as head of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith. He also signed off on the excommunication of Marcel Lefebvre.

The Tridentine Mass returned IN SPITE OF and NOT BECAUSE OF the incipient rebellion of Marcel formalized on 7/1/88. On 7/2/88, twelve SSPX priests formed the FSSP and got out from under the schism and that is what attendees at FSSP Masses can thank Marcel for and absolutely nothing more.

165 posted on 09/02/2014 8:30:02 PM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club: Roast 'em Danno!)
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