[ebb tide]

That’s not true. You have defended VC II as infallible.

Now, you’re switching lanes.

[BlackElk]

I doubt that since the combination of Vatican II, Saint John XXIII and Paul VI almost sent me to the American version of the Russian Orthodox Church until cooler heads prevailed upon me to stay. As a result, I have accepted that we get the popes we need and not the ones we want. Sometimes our sinfulness is punished by the election of a pope (certainly not Saint John Paul II) whose holding of the office is our punishment.

Is there not a distinction between a doctrinal council and a pastoral council? Is it not true that a doctrinal council commands assent unlike a mere pastoral council? Not to say, amidst all the verbiage produced by the documents of a pastoral council, nothing is infallible. That infallibility does not arise on the authority of such a pastoral council.

Just where am I believed to have defended Vatican II as infallible?

Meanwhile, why did the dozen founding priests of FSSP find it necessary to RETURN to the Church from SSPXland, coincidentally on July 2, 1988?