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To: boatbums
Oh, and where do any of the Apostles, Apostles Jesus Christ promised would be led to all Truth by the Holy Spirit, say there are any books included in the Septuagint that are not the inspired Word of God?

None of them ever did which means either Jesus Christ was just joshin' when He promised that the Holy Spirit would lead them to all Truth or that the Holy Spirit did not lead the Apostles to all Truth and therefor is imperfect and cannot be a part of the Holy Trinity.

Anyone who insists that the anti-Christ Pharisee Approved Luther Subset of Scripture is the complete Bible has to believe one of those two things, that Christ was just joshin' or that there is no Holy Trinity since the Holy Spirit is imperfect and cannot be part of the Holy Trinity.

215 posted on 08/26/2014 9:45:38 PM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory.)
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To: Rashputin
Oh, and where do any of the Apostles, Apostles Jesus Christ promised would be led to all Truth by the Holy Spirit, say there are any books included in the Septuagint that are not the inspired Word of God?

Where do any of the Apostles say ANYTHING about those Apocryphal books? Where did Jesus quote any of them? Seeing as they WERE Jews, themselves, and unto the Jews were given the "oracles of God", why would they have ever accepted extraneous Greek writings on the same level as the accepted-by-everyone-from-the-start sacred Scriptures? Do these seven books getting tacked onto a Greek translation inter-testamental section of the Bible somehow magically MAKE them God-breathed Scripture? If you think so, you are the one questioning the Holy Spirit, not me.

None of them ever did which means either Jesus Christ was just joshin' when He promised that the Holy Spirit would lead them to all Truth or that the Holy Spirit did not lead the Apostles to all Truth and therefor is imperfect and cannot be a part of the Holy Trinity.

None of them ever quoted from the Apocrypha, they never prefaced a quote with "it is written..." or "thus sayeth the Lord..." and, seeing as these extra books do not come anywhere near the caliber of what God-breathed Scripture looks like, we can be assured that they DIDN'T come from the Holy Spirit but the minds of men. So, the Holy Spirit IS leading us AND them into all truth because they never received these books as from God in the first place! Why isn't this getting through to you?

Anyone who insists that the anti-Christ Pharisee Approved Luther Subset of Scripture is the complete Bible has to believe one of those two things, that Christ was just joshin' or that there is no Holy Trinity since the Holy Spirit is imperfect and cannot be part of the Holy Trinity.

Ridiculous conclusion! I supposed you would say Athanasius, Cyril of Jerusalem, Origen and Jerome are guilty of the same thing then? They rejected those books as inspired by God. Do you even know that the Septuagint contained 15 extra books, and not just the disputed 7??? If their presence in the Septuagint was somehow proof that they WERE canonical, then why weren't ALL fifteen included in the Catholic bible? Why doesn't it also contain 1 and 2 Esdras and the Prayer of Mannaseh, for example?

I guess you could accuse Jesus of denying the Holy Trinity and saying the Holy Spirit was imperfect since even He spoke of the sacred Scriptures in Luke 11:51 and Matthew 23:55 when he refers to the “the blood of Abel to the blood of Zechariah” affirming the first book of the Hebrew scripture as Genesis, and the last book as II Chronicles. This affirmation demonstrates the Hebrew “Canon” was closed by the time of Malachi in 425 B.C. Not to mention, there is no evidence that the Septuagint of the first century contained the Apocrypha. The earliest Greek manuscripts, which contain them, date from the 4th Century and not every copy matches the list of books within other copies. (Codex Sinaiticus, Codex Alexandrinus, Codex Vaticanus)http://www.truthnet.org/Bible-Origins/6_The_Apocrypha_The_Septugint/index.htm

Where do you find Jesus or any of the Apostles teaching that the Apocryphal books are the inspired word of God??? Making such a big deal over seven books that have been disputed over their place as sacred Scripture is far more about the authority of the Roman Catholic church than it is about the authority of God's word. Nobody is fooled by this joshing you are dishing out!

217 posted on 08/26/2014 10:59:06 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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