[Secret Agent Man]

you guys are something else. back luther when you like him, and anathematize him when you don’t.

you guys are the very same that will start talking about his later years to discredit him.

you can’t use your own prior discredited source to then back up your points.

[boatbums]

I agree! I think it is a form of schizophrenia. They can't make up their minds what they think about a man who died nearly five hundred years ago - as if he controls/controlled everything pertaining to "Protestantism". Few will even bother to read Luther's actual writings or understand that, as he grew and developed in the Christ-centered faith, the less emphasis he placed on talking about Mary. He came to realize that, as a young Catholic boy and then priest and monk he had been taught to fear Christ as a terrible judge and that Mary represented a go-between of mercy, yet, the closer he got to Christ the more he understood that Christ needed no go-between and that he WAS merciful and gracious. He said:

Christ is not so much a judge and an angry God but one who bears and carries our sins, a mediator. Away with the papists, who have set Christ before us as a terrible judge and have turned the saints into intercessors! There they have added fuel to the fire. By nature we are already afraid of God. Blessed therefore are those who as uncorrupted young people arrived at this understanding, that they can say: “I only knew Jesus Christ as the bearer of my sins. [Martin Luther, Luther’s Works, 17:224.]

[piusv]

you guys are something else. back luther when you like him, and anathematize him when you don’t.

In one sense, I can see what the OP is doing because even those who are heretics can also agree on certain other Catholic truths.

OTOH, I agree with you. As a Traditional Catholic I would never use a heretic as support for Catholic truths.